You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I can't remember how it was when I first started...HolyG said:snow plow, when YOU VERY FIRST STARTED, how far would u push interactions in daygame? would u go for k close, number close, etc...or were u just out there having fun
This rarely happens...I haven't been "right off the bat" blownout , far less blownout in a LONG TIME going about it the way I do know. I know how to open 100% consistent now.daygameguy said:Can you give us some scenarios (in brief) when you failed with your "right off the bat" sexual flirty vibe. I wanna know cuz I wanna go more direct/sexual these days. My inner game shoots up pretty high sometimes lol.
RSD has what they now call the Nathan Exercise where you write down...steve_erkle said:Another Q:
You talk about how building a core identity is very important. How did you do this and why is it important?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I was generally an introvert to most because I was so NEGATIVE that I purposely didn't want to talk to people, but with "School" friends I was usually an extrovert. I had an overall fuked up personality and I was a fuked up person...which is why I switched from trying to pull to actually transforming my identity.TodayisTomorrow said:What type of personality were you before you started your approach journal?
I say put yourself out there with nothing...because eventually you'll have a bunch of stuff you love to say that is funny to you. Also it teaches you to fully understand and believe that whatever you say is the right thing to say...Moving you away from what you actually say.TodayisTomorrow said:Do you recommend having a couple playful routines memorized just to get the ball rolling or is the key to put yourself in many awkward situations as possible and trust yourself to come up with something to say.
You can be laid-back, as I realized watching myself on camera I'm actually not high energy I'm just very smooth and fluid with what I do...which means when I was trying low energy I was a fuking zombie.TodayisTomorrow said:I know you've said "anything I say is coming from me so it's magic" but the problem is I just can't come up with multiple threads to keep the conversation from going stale. If I try to be a more high energy person I feel it comes up as incongruent because I'm so laid back.
I'm not sure if I fully understood but...schttrj said:We would accept that we get to see girls who are very beautiful and they DO have a boyfriend! And this is a very common thing with attractive girls.
Now, if I go direct on her, "hi, just saw u from there... had to come and meet u... i'm x"
this would seldom be taken as in a positive warm way from her end.
The only way is to let her notice you and get her to talk to you and then keep the ball rolling.
But how do you actually do this when you see such woman on the street or a shopping mall or such places... remember, they are beautiful and they most probably have a boyfriend....
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yep the thing I learned was the women really don't process the environment, she's just focused on the sub-communication. Even though it's possible that she can get thrown out of state and realize her surroundings...Which is why generally I always suck women in my reality and keep them in it by controling the frame, leading the interaction and not letting her get out of my reality.daygameguy said:To Snow,
I totally agree. Actually the entire RSD exercise is common sense which is ignored.
Sometimes I recall my pickups, and I feel like I did such a socially and logically unacceptable thing, but it worked because I didn't feel awkward while doing it.
I've stopped girls on skateboards, or while they were running wit IPods, etc and have got positive results. So I guess you should pay 0 attention to your logical brain. We have to make our own reality, and pull others into our perception of the world, a world where WE are the prize, and set our own standards which others need to live up to.
There are a ton of things I did to fully get rid of AA, but the biggest thing was doing the Nathan Exercises. (Who you are, what you value, etc) This helped me a lot because I had some depth, so the chicks couldn't dictate who I was in the set.Get-With-It said:What did you do to help you overcome approach anxiety?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Yea I'd agree...MM is like a roadmap, but many people miss the point of how and why MM was created. The only actual mindset I hate about MM is the fact that it assumes that your lower value than the girl, but that has been changing over the years as I've seen.daygameguy said:The last couple posts are so damn kick as$.
I completely understand your cold approach mindset.
I get it now. The difference between MM and RSD is just that RSD guys focus on the bigger picture only - the vibe, higher value, and always bringing value with non-needy attitude, and knowing who you are/having strong identity. MM just advocates creating scripted routines for all of that, but actually if you are understand the core concepts/the bigger picture, you can let the scripts unfold naturally.
If you feel good about:
1. Who you are
2. Who you are with
3. What you exactly want
Then much of your AA will be taken care of.
Let me also add this, and this is something I completely agree with:
AFC Adam pointed out that all naturals have 3 main qualities:
1. Confidence
2. Abundance
3. Ability to sexually escalate
And any guy who can master these 3 characteristics in his lifestyle/personality, can be a complete natural.
I've never really set any challenges with my wings as it doesn't really feel like were wings...more like buddies. I say this because I usually just run around the night venues by myself, even though all my friends are somewhere in the mix...Although me and one of my closest wings we used to give missions like "Today very low energy", "Today we must pull", etc. This has brought good results but we never consistently did it.Solomon said:Snow
I got a question, do you and your wings ever set challenges for fun? for instance Kbot and I did a challenge to see who can stay in a set the longest or some crap like that, just to keep things intersting and fresh,
do you feel like when you have wing your game is elevated? I know for a fact for me when I'm hype, my game goes to a different level, like a Super Saiyan, whether I'm with "Gamers" or just regular guys that I use as pivots and convert into wings within mintues of qualfying them, my game just elevates its like a challenge and I gotta show out, and I relish being in it, and I step up to the plate like Hank Aaron in the 9th
Before I was real big on just walking up to a chick, just tapping her and talking as if this wasn't a dancefloor, this worked out real well.edger said:Snowplowman-
Do you cold approach hotties as they're dancing by walking up to them and start dancing or grinding on them? I need some opinions from people because this has never been my approach in clubs, and I'd like to start doing it more often. If you cold approach or have cold approached this way, what has been your success rate? This question goes for anyone out there who has experience with this type of approach.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.