Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I can't remember how it was when I first started...HolyG said:snow plow, when YOU VERY FIRST STARTED, how far would u push interactions in daygame? would u go for k close, number close, etc...or were u just out there having fun
This rarely happens...I haven't been "right off the bat" blownout , far less blownout in a LONG TIME going about it the way I do know. I know how to open 100% consistent now.daygameguy said:Can you give us some scenarios (in brief) when you failed with your "right off the bat" sexual flirty vibe. I wanna know cuz I wanna go more direct/sexual these days. My inner game shoots up pretty high sometimes lol.
RSD has what they now call the Nathan Exercise where you write down...steve_erkle said:Another Q:
You talk about how building a core identity is very important. How did you do this and why is it important?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I was generally an introvert to most because I was so NEGATIVE that I purposely didn't want to talk to people, but with "School" friends I was usually an extrovert. I had an overall fuked up personality and I was a fuked up person...which is why I switched from trying to pull to actually transforming my identity.TodayisTomorrow said:What type of personality were you before you started your approach journal?
I say put yourself out there with nothing...because eventually you'll have a bunch of stuff you love to say that is funny to you. Also it teaches you to fully understand and believe that whatever you say is the right thing to say...Moving you away from what you actually say.TodayisTomorrow said:Do you recommend having a couple playful routines memorized just to get the ball rolling or is the key to put yourself in many awkward situations as possible and trust yourself to come up with something to say.
You can be laid-back, as I realized watching myself on camera I'm actually not high energy I'm just very smooth and fluid with what I do...which means when I was trying low energy I was a fuking zombie.TodayisTomorrow said:I know you've said "anything I say is coming from me so it's magic" but the problem is I just can't come up with multiple threads to keep the conversation from going stale. If I try to be a more high energy person I feel it comes up as incongruent because I'm so laid back.
I'm not sure if I fully understood but...schttrj said:We would accept that we get to see girls who are very beautiful and they DO have a boyfriend! And this is a very common thing with attractive girls.
Now, if I go direct on her, "hi, just saw u from there... had to come and meet u... i'm x"
this would seldom be taken as in a positive warm way from her end.
The only way is to let her notice you and get her to talk to you and then keep the ball rolling.
But how do you actually do this when you see such woman on the street or a shopping mall or such places... remember, they are beautiful and they most probably have a boyfriend....
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Yep the thing I learned was the women really don't process the environment, she's just focused on the sub-communication. Even though it's possible that she can get thrown out of state and realize her surroundings...Which is why generally I always suck women in my reality and keep them in it by controling the frame, leading the interaction and not letting her get out of my reality.daygameguy said:To Snow,
I totally agree. Actually the entire RSD exercise is common sense which is ignored.
Sometimes I recall my pickups, and I feel like I did such a socially and logically unacceptable thing, but it worked because I didn't feel awkward while doing it.
I've stopped girls on skateboards, or while they were running wit IPods, etc and have got positive results. So I guess you should pay 0 attention to your logical brain. We have to make our own reality, and pull others into our perception of the world, a world where WE are the prize, and set our own standards which others need to live up to.
There are a ton of things I did to fully get rid of AA, but the biggest thing was doing the Nathan Exercises. (Who you are, what you value, etc) This helped me a lot because I had some depth, so the chicks couldn't dictate who I was in the set.Get-With-It said:What did you do to help you overcome approach anxiety?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yea I'd agree...MM is like a roadmap, but many people miss the point of how and why MM was created. The only actual mindset I hate about MM is the fact that it assumes that your lower value than the girl, but that has been changing over the years as I've seen.daygameguy said:The last couple posts are so damn kick as$.
I completely understand your cold approach mindset.
I get it now. The difference between MM and RSD is just that RSD guys focus on the bigger picture only - the vibe, higher value, and always bringing value with non-needy attitude, and knowing who you are/having strong identity. MM just advocates creating scripted routines for all of that, but actually if you are understand the core concepts/the bigger picture, you can let the scripts unfold naturally.
If you feel good about:
1. Who you are
2. Who you are with
3. What you exactly want
Then much of your AA will be taken care of.
Let me also add this, and this is something I completely agree with:
AFC Adam pointed out that all naturals have 3 main qualities:
1. Confidence
2. Abundance
3. Ability to sexually escalate
And any guy who can master these 3 characteristics in his lifestyle/personality, can be a complete natural.
I've never really set any challenges with my wings as it doesn't really feel like were wings...more like buddies. I say this because I usually just run around the night venues by myself, even though all my friends are somewhere in the mix...Although me and one of my closest wings we used to give missions like "Today very low energy", "Today we must pull", etc. This has brought good results but we never consistently did it.Solomon said:Snow
I got a question, do you and your wings ever set challenges for fun? for instance Kbot and I did a challenge to see who can stay in a set the longest or some crap like that, just to keep things intersting and fresh,
do you feel like when you have wing your game is elevated? I know for a fact for me when I'm hype, my game goes to a different level, like a Super Saiyan, whether I'm with "Gamers" or just regular guys that I use as pivots and convert into wings within mintues of qualfying them, my game just elevates its like a challenge and I gotta show out, and I relish being in it, and I step up to the plate like Hank Aaron in the 9th
Before I was real big on just walking up to a chick, just tapping her and talking as if this wasn't a dancefloor, this worked out real well.edger said:Snowplowman-
Do you cold approach hotties as they're dancing by walking up to them and start dancing or grinding on them? I need some opinions from people because this has never been my approach in clubs, and I'd like to start doing it more often. If you cold approach or have cold approached this way, what has been your success rate? This question goes for anyone out there who has experience with this type of approach.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.