"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Small School=Little Opportunities

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I go to a high school with 400 students and there aren't a lot of worthwhile girls to go for. There's this one girl that i really like but i've never gone for it, mostly cuz i'm a pansy but also because she's a great friend of mine. I flirt with her when we hang out and even though i never explicitly told her i like her, im pretty sure she knows.

Anyway, because there are pretty much no other girls to go for, i feel like im emanating a sense of desperation for her, which is obviously a turnoff. I'm not needy, or at least look like it, when with her, like i dont ask to hang out often or text her everyday, but i'd feel like if i could get her jealous, it'd be easier to get with her (or any other tips you guys can give me; im open minded as hell)

Simply put, where can i go to find other girls? Ask friends to hook me up? Find one in a coffee shop, subway etc.? Or do i just say fudge it and ask for a one on one hangout and go for it then?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I go to a 400 person high school as well. Very few social opportunities if you don't establish yourself as cool early on. People are very resistant to you changing. All attempts to establish yourself as cool later become needy. Needy kills social interaction.

I will say this. Your game probably sucks. If you aren't popular, and haven't experienced a big change in your life, there is a reason that you aren't popular. You're going to have to create a change in your life outside of school.

Join clubs and teams outside of school, and make an active effort to be social and friendly to EVERYONE (especially the hot people). Once you've made serious progress in your social ability, you will slowly begin to see it reflected in your school life. Classmates who already have one opinion of you are very unlikely to change it, expect to feel unappreciated for a long time, until they gradually see that you're cool (the new facebook pictures of you with hot out-of-school girls will help with this).

Don't mix the out-of-school group and the in-school group, or if you do, do it sparingly and cautiously. I don't do it often, or didn't before I developed social skill, and I don't know how it would work out, to try to fit into those two roles simultaneously.
 

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Damn dude. Never said I wasn't popular. I've got a solid social circle, but just not many girls in it simply.

So extracurriculars are the way to go. Any specific ones that girls tend to flock to? Or should I just go for something i enjoy?
 

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Homerdough said:
Damn dude. Never said I wasn't popular. I've got a solid social circle, but just not many girls in it simply.
Sorry if I offended you (everyone is easily offended around here. I definitely was at the beginning of my journal) but yeah, girls=popularity for me. Better guys come too, as you become better socially, but any guy can have guy friends. Real popular people have girls around.

Do whatever you're interested in. Don't choose something that other people are very good at already, if you're trying to join a soccer team and you suck at soccer, it will be hard to be important in the group. There are many youth groups that require no prerequisite skill, but if you're good at something, a sport or activity, join a club for it. Make sure that it's co-ed, many sports teams only have one gender.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'd join basketball but there arent many co-ed basketball teams out there, even in New York. I was thinking more like an improv class or self defense class etc. Anything relatively cheap would help out and I assume a job would help a lot too, depending on what job it is
 

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Join basketball because you want to have fun, not to meet girls. You'll make new friends and they'll invite you out.
Honestly dude you live in New York, stop ****ing complaining; you realize how many people there are? I don't have a single girl at my school, I do awesomely well after school though and on weekends. You're limiting yourself here
 

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Whatever you do, get out there and do it. Start doing google searches NOW, write down 10 options by tomorrow, then narrow it down to 3 by the next day, then call and investigate those options (cost, whether you can have a trial period, general logistics) then choose one and be registered for it before the end of the week.
 
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