wakingup
Don Juan
Any threads on here about sleeping over? Is there any sort of general advice on this topic?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Sleeping Over Rules
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- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
Whatever YOU like, NOT what SHE wants. Don't let her weasel her way into your life without your permission. ACTIVE permission..... YOU say yes, none of this "it just happened" and "I don't know how" sh1t.
She NEVER moves in until after you are married, and it would be best if she didn't then
She NEVER moves in until after you are married, and it would be best if she didn't then
zekko
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Everyone always says don't let her move in unless you marry her. But these days getting married may not be the best idea. I use cohabitation IN PLACE of marriage. No need to sign a government contract with her so she can screw you whenever she likes
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Waking up,
All the above sounds good...Sodbuster is right about doing it YOUR way...If you want to go home after the deadly deed,then go!...Weazelling her way into your life is an amusing and apt description LOL!
All the above sounds good...Sodbuster is right about doing it YOUR way...If you want to go home after the deadly deed,then go!...Weazelling her way into your life is an amusing and apt description LOL!
glass half full
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yep I agree with Sodbuster and Scaramouche. Do things your way. After all that is what has escaped men over the years.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.