"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sleeping Over Rules

wakingup

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Any threads on here about sleeping over? Is there any sort of general advice on this topic?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sodbuster

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Whatever YOU like, NOT what SHE wants. Don't let her weasel her way into your life without your permission. ACTIVE permission..... YOU say yes, none of this "it just happened" and "I don't know how" sh1t.

She NEVER moves in until after you are married, and it would be best if she didn't then :)
 

zekko

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Everyone always says don't let her move in unless you marry her. But these days getting married may not be the best idea. I use cohabitation IN PLACE of marriage. No need to sign a government contract with her so she can screw you whenever she likes
 

Scaramouche

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Dear Waking up,
All the above sounds good...Sodbuster is right about doing it YOUR way...If you want to go home after the deadly deed,then go!...Weazelling her way into your life is an amusing and apt description LOL!
 

glass half full

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yep I agree with Sodbuster and Scaramouche. Do things your way. After all that is what has escaped men over the years.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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