Soo, I'm quite a lurker here, but I have experience. I would say I'm a more of a natural alpha then I am a beta, with some beta traits that over the years I have learned to control. The reason I say natural is because I have strong company of friends and family that stand firm in our community and have shown me how to go trough life as a real man doing whatever I please within boundaries.
However I have come to this website for the first time not to read other posts and learn but to ask a question about a situation I happen to be in.
Im 23, had 1 relationship when I was 15, and understood directly that having relationship is not for the young, and broke it off after 4 months and since then have been doing whatever I want(IE, travel, have fun with any women that interests me). I have no problem approaching and being social and where me and my friends are we attract attention because of our bold methods which makes having fun with numerous women very easy.
I have come to a point that I met a girl, An hb7 i would rate, however her style and status with her friends and the amount of desperate betas orbiters around her would probably make her a common hb8. Let me say I don't even look at a girl if she isn't at least 6.5+.
I did something different with this girl and approached her not as a prospect to have fun but as a GF prospect. In the beginning I had not made this clear as it was difficult for me but she thought I saw her as a friend and treated me as such, seems I had trouble expressing higher desires. As a result of her(or maybe my own) actions I went dark cold without reason, she did nothing wrong but she did not do what I fought she would do and is go after me like I'm used to. 3 months after I go silent I get a text from her asking how I am etc, and then she gets to the point asking why I went dark, I said communication comes from both ways so you might as well state why you didn't make an effort, and she said she thought i wanted her just as a friend , at that point i expressed my desire to be more however would like to take it slow get to learn each other much better(I don't do gf for the hck of it, i do it for stability and marriage eventually). We start talking etc, and its all good, all of her friends know me btw and always come say hi and ask what sup when I'm somewhere(even before i started talking to her).
Now the problem is the ****ing beta orbiters. They irritate me so much those lowlife forms of men. When this girl goes to a club with her friends, there are 2 certain betas that ALWAYS ALWAYS come there to follow them and hangout with them. These guys also make extra effort before coming to get them ice cream etc. Now let me be clear, I see them as no threat because I have enough experience to see who a women is interested in, and its clearly me and not the beta. However they are WAY to friendly in my opinion, it is something that I will not accept of the women that would be my girlfriend, and I have expressed this, her answer was they're just friends that follow us around and we have fun and use them when we can, BUT they do have a nice time together and have a group chat with her friends and the 2 betas. She said that when things progress between us she will eventually drop them and make it clear she is dating me.
What should I do? She has a point, were not really in a relationship so I can't force her to respect my boundaries, because we have none yet. Yet every time I'm somewhere with my friends and this hb happens to be there to also with her friends i see those betas with them and get mad at myself for allowing myself to talk with her.. Am i right to get mad? Do i wait it out till we are official? Should I even get official? I should mention she is the smart hard working type and not the usual slut that is in it for the fun.
Am i to strict? or should she have a boundary even before becoming official?
We have went on 1 date as of now. I have no need to go on a date every week, once in the 2-3 weeks is enough for me as I have many other things on my mind (college/work/hobbys/friends).
Any tips? questions, all will be answered.
However I have come to this website for the first time not to read other posts and learn but to ask a question about a situation I happen to be in.
Im 23, had 1 relationship when I was 15, and understood directly that having relationship is not for the young, and broke it off after 4 months and since then have been doing whatever I want(IE, travel, have fun with any women that interests me). I have no problem approaching and being social and where me and my friends are we attract attention because of our bold methods which makes having fun with numerous women very easy.
I have come to a point that I met a girl, An hb7 i would rate, however her style and status with her friends and the amount of desperate betas orbiters around her would probably make her a common hb8. Let me say I don't even look at a girl if she isn't at least 6.5+.
I did something different with this girl and approached her not as a prospect to have fun but as a GF prospect. In the beginning I had not made this clear as it was difficult for me but she thought I saw her as a friend and treated me as such, seems I had trouble expressing higher desires. As a result of her(or maybe my own) actions I went dark cold without reason, she did nothing wrong but she did not do what I fought she would do and is go after me like I'm used to. 3 months after I go silent I get a text from her asking how I am etc, and then she gets to the point asking why I went dark, I said communication comes from both ways so you might as well state why you didn't make an effort, and she said she thought i wanted her just as a friend , at that point i expressed my desire to be more however would like to take it slow get to learn each other much better(I don't do gf for the hck of it, i do it for stability and marriage eventually). We start talking etc, and its all good, all of her friends know me btw and always come say hi and ask what sup when I'm somewhere(even before i started talking to her).
Now the problem is the ****ing beta orbiters. They irritate me so much those lowlife forms of men. When this girl goes to a club with her friends, there are 2 certain betas that ALWAYS ALWAYS come there to follow them and hangout with them. These guys also make extra effort before coming to get them ice cream etc. Now let me be clear, I see them as no threat because I have enough experience to see who a women is interested in, and its clearly me and not the beta. However they are WAY to friendly in my opinion, it is something that I will not accept of the women that would be my girlfriend, and I have expressed this, her answer was they're just friends that follow us around and we have fun and use them when we can, BUT they do have a nice time together and have a group chat with her friends and the 2 betas. She said that when things progress between us she will eventually drop them and make it clear she is dating me.
What should I do? She has a point, were not really in a relationship so I can't force her to respect my boundaries, because we have none yet. Yet every time I'm somewhere with my friends and this hb happens to be there to also with her friends i see those betas with them and get mad at myself for allowing myself to talk with her.. Am i right to get mad? Do i wait it out till we are official? Should I even get official? I should mention she is the smart hard working type and not the usual slut that is in it for the fun.
Am i to strict? or should she have a boundary even before becoming official?
We have went on 1 date as of now. I have no need to go on a date every week, once in the 2-3 weeks is enough for me as I have many other things on my mind (college/work/hobbys/friends).
Any tips? questions, all will be answered.
