"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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"Single Women Going For Taken Men" - Why?

Pimply_Pimp

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I have a bunch of various types of friends - some who get laid all the time and some who don't.

However, my friend who hasn't been getting any lately is wondering why single women always go for taken men.

He works with a bunch of single women but they are always glued to the guy in a relationship. Can anyone explain why women do this?

Because I have been thinking that if it was true that single women go for taken men, then how would a guy ever get into a relationship int he first place?!?!?

Think about 2 people. Let's call them Joe and Pam. Joe is a single guy who works with Pam. He flirts with Pam but Pam doesn't respond. One day, Joe announces he's seeing someone and then Pam's attraction goes through the roof for Joe. But, how did the other girl who joe is seeing become interested in Joe if he was single?

You see what I'm saying? If a girl isn't willing to give a single guy a chance unless he's in a relationship, how does the single guy GET into that relationship in the first place if girls don't like single guys?

I have a close friend who has been in a relationship for 5 years and girls are always flirting with him. He tells me it's because he's in a relationship and that's why the women want him. So I asked him, "But how did you first start going out with someone 5 years ago if you were single and girls only like taken guys?" He scratched his head and said he doesn't know and that I bring up a good question.

So, for everyone out there who has seen the trend of "single girl going for taken guy," how does the single guy get the girlfriend in the first place?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Strelok said:
Reminds me of those companies who only hire experienced people.
This is why I've lied on every single application and resume I've ever submitted.

"Yes I'm employed, don't contact my current employer."

People want what's in demand.
 

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Strelok said:
Reminds me of those companies who only hire experienced people.

Yeah, it's a phenomenon that makes no sense. Like women say "Oh there's a REASON he's single. He must really suck."

But, if these same women would've had that EXACT SAME ATTITUDE when they first started their relationship with a single guy, nobody would EVER be going out with anyone. Their attitude would be, "Why should I give this guy a chance? HE'S SINGLE! Nobody else wants him, why should I?"

And yet, people get in relationships somehow LMAO

What if my friend's girlfriend told him "no" 5 years ago because he was single? He wouldn't have a girlfriend right now. But, somehow, she said yes to a single guy asking her out instead of being disgusted that he was single LOL
 

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Alle_Gory said:
This is why I've lied on every single application and resume I've ever submitted.

"Yes I'm employed, don't contact my current employer."

People want what's in demand.
That's how I ended up in tax liens-real estate. When you appear like you have more to offer, you get more.

Politicians lie all the time. I'm not calling any names.

OP, try lying and say you're in a relationship. Jealousy is a strong emotion, and guys know that they'll have girls wanting them as long as they have at least ONE girl. I remember guys who would go as far as bringing their own female cousins around them more and women suddenly see more in them!

Women know they have a high market value, so you gotta have one too. Women want what they can't have. If you're available, you won't get a lot.

Dating is a lot harder for a normal guy than for a normal girl. The normal guy has to be above and beyond and sometimes getting with a girl requires a Harvard Medical School entrance exam.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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nismo-4 said:
That's how I ended up in tax liens-real estate. When you appear like you have more to offer, you get more.

Politicians lie all the time. I'm not calling any names.

OP, try lying and say you're in a relationship. Jealousy is a strong emotion, and guys know that they'll have girls wanting them as long as they have at least ONE girl. Women know they have a high market value, so you gotta have one too. Women want what they can't have. If you're available, you won't get a lot.

I've had my fair share of sex, I'm just not interested in pursuing a relationship at this point in my life. However, I have a friend who doesn't get any, but he's still a cool person to hang with. I don't care how much sex he gets. But, he seems down about it a lot.

He tried lying about being in a relationship, but with this being the "age of facebook," the girls asked him her name to pull her up on facebook and see if he was telling the truth.

It's not as easy to lie as it used to be. Like I said, I don't "care" that my friend isn't getting any. He's still cool. He's just becoming more and more "boring" to hang out with lately because he's so down.
 

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eh you know females..if he has a girl then there must be something about him that a girl is suppose to like or they think they could make him leave his girl for them
 

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Pre selection wins every time. I used to kick it with this hot little southern redhead who would by all my drinks for me and call me Big Daddy. By the end of the night every girl in there would try to be her friend to get to know me. It was amazing how well it works.
 

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Go get in the gym, get a good paying job, and learn how to smile and talk half decent and none of this will matter.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Alle_Gory said:
This is why I've lied on every single application and resume I've ever submitted.

"Yes I'm employed, don't contact my current employer."

People want what's in demand.
You live in the states? Can't they check that though through your social security or something? So you're telling me there's no way they can find out if you are actually lying or not?
 

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f283000 said:
You live in the states? Can't they check that though through your social security or something? So you're telling me there's no way they can find out if you are actually lying or not?
They usually don't give a f*ck to check.
 

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Most women want the "taken men" simply for the challenge.
Am I good enough to make this guy dump his girl, make him believe I'll be with him and then eventually dump him for an asinine reason or a guy better than him.

If they TRULY cared about the fact that they were taken, they wouldn't be trying or letting themselves getting involved.

A woman who is willing to steer you away from your current LTR, FULLY knowing that you are in an LTR and have been so for quite a while, is a giant red flag on heels. It's no surprise that men will soon find themselves developing "Greener Grass" syndrome only to hop over the fence and find that the garden is full of weeds.
 

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Pimply_Pimp said:
He works with a bunch of single women

Maybe this is his problem. I.e he is absorbing the female world, being emasculated possibly, it's nice if you want to be a womans friend but totally shi*e if you want to fcuk them.

I suggest you point your friend to this forum.

As for women dating men in relationships.

I've always said the biggest enemy of woman is not a 'man' it is another woman and women know this.
 

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Obviously because not all girls go for guys with girlfriends. :yawn:
Obviously because the taken guy is awesome and the single guy sucks. :yawn:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Suggesting your involved with other girls is the best way to go, but saying 'im in a relationship' is not always an immediate win card.

Iv lost girls by admitting that i have a girlfriend. If she's sober, virgin and not crazy about you it can work against. Likewise, saying 'yes im single and desperate' is not doing anybody favours.

Leaving the door open is beneficial in many ways.
 

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you don't need to be in a ltr or dating to get the girls to go after you but you need to be "around" or "Friends" with women.

(random names)
Example: Joe goes in a bar alone, looks clean crisp and nice. He will be able to meet women if he aggressively runs some game, but he'd have to properly open/close etc.

Example 2: Joe goes in a bar with kelly and jennifer. As soon as Joe is relaxing drinkin/laughin with the two girls. other girls will notice and a few may even approach. He can also get assistance from the girls as wingwomen. He is super desirable because he's with hot women. WHo is this guy? the girls will wonder.

In the ltr im in she is jealous 24/7 and so are other women. COnstantly trying to compete. it is funny. All girls have 1 button you can push. 1 guaranteed button for most women. And that button is chilling with a hot girl. that will mental f8Ck any gf. and if your girl is down and just is cool, then u should marry her asap
 

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He works with a bunch of single women but they are always glued to the guy in a relationship. Can anyone explain why women do this?
There's a simpler element at work here aside from preselection. The more attractive males will get snapped up early. But even though they are taken, they are still "the more attractive males". So girls will still be attracted to them.

It's like the more attractive girls. They probably have boyfriends but they will still have guys buzzing around them and hitting on them. Why? Because they're the most attractive girls.

Remember what they say: Attraction is not a choice. People will be drawn to the most attractive members of the opposite sex (and you can define attractive however you like), whether they are taken or not.
 

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zekko said:
There's a simpler element at work here aside from preselection. The more attractive males will get snapped up early. But even though they are taken, they are still "the more attractive males". So girls will still be attracted to them.

It's like the more attractive girls. They probably have boyfriends but they will still have guys buzzing around them and hitting on them. Why? Because they're the most attractive girls.

Remember what they say: Attraction is not a choice. People will be drawn to the most attractive members of the opposite sex (and you can define attractive however you like), whether they are taken or not.
Preselection is what contributes to making the guys attractive, you missed the main point here.
 

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Kailex said:
Most women want the "taken men" simply for the challenge.
Am I good enough to make this guy dump his girl, make him believe I'll be with him and then eventually dump him for an asinine reason or a guy better than him.

If they TRULY cared about the fact that they were taken, they wouldn't be trying or letting themselves getting involved.

A woman who is willing to steer you away from your current LTR, FULLY knowing that you are in an LTR and have been so for quite a while, is a giant red flag on heels. It's no surprise that men will soon find themselves developing
"Greener Grass" syndrome only to hop over the fence and find that the garden is full of weeds
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Lol! I agree with Kailex, and yet when a man admits to cheating on his girl friend these same type of women will be up in arms as to him being a cheat.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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