"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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single moms as plates?

mister.ritenow

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I know this is cort of counterintuitive, but does anyone have a recommendation about single moms as plates?

Usually once I see that there is a child in the picture I run for the hills because I'd think that these women are looking for a Mr. Dad and at the least a LTR.

But some of these women are hot and I have to think they want some action too, maybe even more so because the baby is always c***-blocking them?

Any advice or anecdotes? Should I continue to skip these ones or just go for it?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Zapp Brannigan

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The idea of plate spinning was for a dude in between relationships to be chasing several women at once. They were supposed to pick the one they liked the most, and if things didn't work out with one, they still had the others. The idea was made for dudes to boost their confidence and get better at chasing women.

It wasn't made for us to keep damaged women (single mothers, ex's, bar flys, etc) as our own personal fvck toys for an indefinite amount of time. Playing with fire with a woman like this isn't plate spinning, and isn't a good idea. DJ's are supposed to avoid the women who cause trouble and headaches, not continue seeing them.

You really need to be stay careful and avoid trouble like this.
 

mister.ritenow

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Zapp Brannigan said:
The idea of plate spinning was for a dude in between relationships to be chasing several women at once. They were supposed to pick the one they liked the most, and if things didn't work out with one, they still had the others. The idea was made for dudes to boost their confidence and get better at chasing women.

It wasn't made for us to keep damaged women (single mothers, ex's, bar flys, etc) as our own personal fvck toys for an indefinite amount of time. Playing with fire with a woman like this isn't plate spinning, and isn't a good idea. DJ's are supposed to avoid the women who cause trouble and headaches, not continue seeing them.

You really need to be stay careful and avoid trouble like this.
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated. I'll stay away from single moms unless she's too hot to turn down haha.
 

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mister.ritenow said:
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated. I'll stay away from single moms unless she's too hot to turn down haha.
I quit single moms a couple years ago and been extremely happy about, but g*d damit lately all I run into is hot mid 20s milfs. It's bullsh*t, ONS at their place and that's it. Nothing more.
 

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mister.ritenow said:
I know this is cort of counterintuitive, but does anyone have a recommendation about single moms as plates?

Usually once I see that there is a child in the picture I run for the hills because I'd think that these women are looking for a Mr. Dad and at the least a LTR.

But some of these women are hot and I have to think they want some action too, maybe even more so because the baby is always c***-blocking them?

Any advice or anecdotes? Should I continue to skip these ones or just go for it?
Wrong question to ask here bro. We can't tell you what the point of a plate is, or whether a single mom is good as a plate or not.

The only thing we can tell you is protect yourself at all times, in case the single mom, or any girl, decides to create some trouble for you. :woo:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Well all single moms arent damaged bro. Some are really good girls that got dealt a ****ty hand. Keyword some. Same as all women. I dont neccissarily look down on a chick with a kid
 

mister.ritenow

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cola said:
Well all single moms arent damaged bro. Some are really good girls that got dealt a ****ty hand. Keyword some. Same as all women. I dont neccissarily look down on a chick with a kid
Not worried about damage, just trying to weigh the chances that my efforts will be in vain because the group is far less likely to want something casual.
 
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mister.ritenow said:
Not worried about damage, just trying to weigh the chances that my efforts will be in vain because the group is far less likely to want something casual.
They're ok having "sex partners". They just don't have a lot of time to waste. So they aren't going to be playing games and rather direct what their needs are. Be fair to them and their children and communicate your intentions.
 

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When they(single mothers) hear a logical person say that they, as a single mom, are irresponsible, a single mom will immediately assume that a man is “unhappy” when he says he’s learned and is done dating single moms because of the debt, drama, and baggage they bring. A single mom will also immediately assume a guy is “immature” or a “man-boy” when he tells her that there is no way he’s interested in becoming a wallet for her kids by another man, dealing with said drama and exes and kids not his. What is laughable is that in reality someone who has sense enough not to date a single parent is the smartest human being on Earth. I’m far from an “unhappy, immature, man-boy”. Rather, my earnings are mine, my 401K and home are mine, my life and time are mine, and none of it is being wasted on a single mom and her brood.

We men are wise to the games that single moms play. We know most single moms look to we men as wallets and ATMs to finance their broods by the deadbeats, bad boys they chose in their youth to have kids with. More and more men are learning that single moms are only to be dated while it’s fun, and once the kids are introduced, the ex drama is exposed, the debt is revealed, the baggage is unpacked, a wise man will walk away from a single mother.
 
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YawataNoKami said:
When they(single mothers) hear a logical person say that they, as a single mom, are irresponsible, a single mom will immediately assume that a man is “unhappy” when he says he’s learned and is done dating single moms because of the debt, drama, and baggage they bring. A single mom will also immediately assume a guy is “immature” or a “man-boy” when he tells her that there is no way he’s interested in becoming a wallet for her kids by another man, dealing with said drama and exes and kids not his. What is laughable is that in reality someone who has sense enough not to date a single parent is the smartest human being on Earth. I’m far from an “unhappy, immature, man-boy”. Rather, my earnings are mine, my 401K and home are mine, my life and time are mine, and none of it is being wasted on a single mom and her brood.

We men are wise to the games that single moms play. We know most single moms look to we men as wallets and ATMs to finance their broods by the deadbeats, bad boys they chose in their youth to have kids with. More and more men are learning that single moms are only to be dated while it’s fun, and once the kids are introduced, the ex drama is exposed, the debt is revealed, the baggage is unpacked, a wise man will walk away from a single mother.
Non-single ladies already run this game. They will have the guy with the cash, and other men of zero means in the same circles as them that you are basically financing.

That's why sometimes it's best if you do have financial means to mess with people who also have them.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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alaki

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mister.ritenow said:
I know this is cort of counterintuitive, but does anyone have a recommendation about single moms as plates?

Usually once I see that there is a child in the picture I run for the hills because I'd think that these women are looking for a Mr. Dad and at the least a LTR.

But some of these women are hot and I have to think they want some action too, maybe even more so because the baby is always c***-blocking them?

Any advice or anecdotes? Should I continue to skip these ones or just go for it?
i tried it once,the sex is GOOOOD,but after that you have to be a daddy,or change your phone number /home adress etc etc(which i did)
 
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