"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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simple question - to text or not?

iliketennis

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met a girl today who knows me by professional reputation. i had never met her before but had smiled and waved from far away every time i was at her office. today i asked for her number with the 15 seconds that i had to talk to her. asked her her name and number and that was it, she gave it to me.

i called her tonight and she said she was getting in the shower, and asked if she could call me back, i said that's fine.

she gets out of the shower, texts me "what's up". i didn't answer, and then she said "do u text?"

what would you do?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Htienvu

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I personally prefer calling! so my answer probaly be "no, I rather call and talk" or don't reply to the text and just call her another time.
 

iliketennis

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a couple hours later she called and i didn't answer. i plan to call tomorrow
 

chance

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dont believe in that crap when people say dont text. texting never ruined my chances with girls. if they like you they dont care. as long as you dont "chat" over text. just say hey, how are you... listen im going <some place> on <some day> id like for you to come." or somethin like that. a quick set up over texting is harmful. too many guys talk bad things about texting. i actually like texting because i hate talking on the phone, especially to dumb hoes. unless they are my gf.
 

bilboteabaggins

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proves my point I made exactly in another thread, girls WANT to text these days and don't really enjoy calls all that much, at least in my experience

text away if you want and forget what others on this forum say, do what you feel is right ;)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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RedZone

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I prefer to text if I just meet a girl...I'll call when we are dating.
 

Diaforetikos

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Runner is right, way too much overanalyzing.

If you have solid game, you could get her into you no matter why method. And judging by this question, m assuming your game isn't too tight, so it doesn't really matter what you say.

But I do wish you the best of luck mate.
 
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