"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Signs of desperation?

slitherjef

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We all know desperation is bad, but some of us may not know what some of the signs of desperation are. I figured we could get a list compiled of signs desperation so others can catch on

So, pros, lets hear some signs of desperation
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DonGorgon

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Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
1. You call more than she does..
2. You spend too much money on her early on
3. You try to hold her hand alot
4. You ask her why she didnt pic up the phone or call back
5. when she flakes you get mad..
 

Sir Juanalot

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  1. You lower your standards or values to fit in to her world view.
  2. You are immediately available all of the time.
  3. You care too much about what she thinks.
  4. You ring her too much, give too many gifts.
 

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1. Saying or doing things that scream "I'm not good enough".
  • Saying, "Please return my call".
  • Making it known that you want a relationship.
  • When you don't receive a call, you get mad.
  • When, "Where is this relationship going?" is something you ask.
  • Asking about exes or getting mad about other dudes.
  • Waiting to hear from her before you make plans.
2. Appearing to care too much.
  • Willingness to bend over backwards.
  • Too eager to please.
  • Available all the time.
3. Giving up too much (offer a mental challenge).
4. A poor attitude about yourself and assuming that you are not attractive enough or good enough. This will cause you to over compensate and start to chase them.
  • Chasing causes them to run. It's easier to attract than chase them down.
  • Over compensating means calling too much or buying their love via gifts.
  • It's about mystery and creating intrigue!
5. Being afraid and making a decision out of the fear of losing the other person. Choose not to be willing to give yourself up.
6. Allowing disrespect from the other person and not making it intolerable. You're not prioritizing your dignity when you're doing this.
7. Not knowing what you want because this will cause you to have a harder time expressing yourself.
8. Jumping in too fast (slow and easy wins this race).
9. Letting them feel they have you under their thumb.
10. Letting them think they are the "whole enchilada".
11. You make yourself too accessible, and this will cause the relationship to always be on the other person's terms.
12. You don't keep previously made plans.
13. You never have plans for "last minute requests" (always tell a girl you already have plans if she wants to make last minute plans).
 

LostAndConfused

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DonGorgon said:
3. You try to hold her hand alot
Isn't that kino? Or do you mean to an excessive amount, like the point where you want every around you look at you two holding hands giving off the "look at me, I have a girlfriend" douchebaggy aura.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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