Sick of women and their BS....last date was a joke!

[nismo-4]

Order in the court! This is a case that Judge nismo will take. Why? Because he has to. Now that I've got some Gatorade by my side, time to take this case.

I have met a lot of women of dating sites. I'm goodlooking, normal, fun personality, dress very nice, nice teeth, talk show host type questions, kidding around, flirting, etc.
I meet hot women on dates after they see my photos so obviously I am handsome. Then when I meet them they tell me I look like my photos.

Good start.

The problem is I cannot get them interested in me after the first date. I have gone through 50 women this year and all of them were "1 daters." I had a few lays in between. But the most part women ditch me after the first date.

You aren't handsome enough to make up for your flaws obviously. There's some sh*t you've been doing that you're not saying here, and it's f**king you up. One thing I can point out is that these women get bored of guys who do the talk show host theme, but they would be very interested in an actual talk show host like Springer (Fame and Fortune, obviously) which you aren't. I'll address this in the verdict.

They love talking to me and feeling comfortable. They will even hang with me for 5 hours on a first date. But the result is always the same--goodbye and goodluck with a kiss on the cheek or a hug or maybe a kiss on the lips. Some have even turned their cheek when I went to kiss them. The ultimate insult. I would love to smack them in the face for the insult. Why waste my time?

They're just not that into you. They don't find you interesting, and once again, you're not handsome (or rich) enough to make up for these flaws. BTW, the pu$$ies haven't gotten wet and tingly enough, if at all.

If they do not find me attractive then why hang out with me for 5 hours on a first date? I sometimes will force myself to flirt with them early on in the date to detect interest and if its not there--I end the date quickly. I hate time wasters.

Things should come naturally. Women can smell a faker. And 5 hours is about 4 hours too long. You need to give info little by little. It's like a RPG, Final Fantasy, The Legend of Zelda. It's fun when you have to figure things out step by step. But when you reach the ending, you'll know everything and can beat the game very quickly. Why? Because there's no new info to be discovered. In the case of you, you were a RPG that came with a Strategy guide, the FAQs, and video walkthroughs. That's a charge accrued in this court.

I finally asked one woman a month ago after our 2nd date(luckily made it that far) why she lost interest? She said I was needy, controlling, and insecure. She came over and I cooked for her. Actually I never found her attractive--but wanted to get laid. I showed her photos an old house I grew up in that was later destroyed(sharing stuff with her), how is that insecure? I even wrestled with her on the floor and we kissed. How is that controlling? I cooked for myself and she thought I cooked for her. How is that needy?

Desperation. This cologne ain't sold in Wal-Mart, but every man has some. I do too. Doesn't mean I use it. Will address this charge in the verdict.

I think women are FULL OF THEMSELVES and have big egos.

Said the guy who can't close at least one deal out of 50 dates. Just because Adam Sandler had 50 First Dates doesn't mean it'll work for you like that. Make yourself interesting.

I think they are image conscious and want a handsome man to be around to make themselves feel good. Maybe I am not handsome and thats turning them off. They are just lying to me not to hurt my feelings. I cannot understand what I a doing wrong? So many ladies are slipping on by me. I used to get laid a lot. But nowadays when women meet me they have their arms folded. They dont flirt back when I flirt with them or they are just quiet or when I kiss them they turn their cheek.

You're not piquing their interest enough. You're basic. Basic and average are women's synonyms for boring!

Maybe give them a challenge?
HELL YEAH MOTHERF**KER!!! WAKE YOUR ASS UP AND DO THIS!!! IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

The last girl I had a date with we spent kissing on parking lot when it ended. Then she called me 3 times that night after date and I didnt answer her calls. Then i finally did on 3rd call. She said she had agreat time. I said lets meet again. She said ok! I texted her to say hi the next day. And she blows me off.

I heard her pu$$y dry up long before I read this epic fail.

I havent heard from her since. Flake! Im sick of the BS.
Any suggestions? Im ready to move to the woods and be a monk.

You really wouldn't do this sh*t. That's another fine.

Read bet-Dammit! And you wonder why these women leave you for someone better. Now it's time to render the verdict. And this is a long ass rap sheet.

You are guilty of being uninteresting, controlled use of desperation cologne, 50 counts of failing to close deals, conducting extensive interviews, threatening to just quit, failure to be a challenge, at least one count of patronizing a long first date, and multiple counts of failure to tingle the vagina.

This comes with a fine of sexless dates, multiple trips to the friendzone, 1 bruised shaft, nights with your right hand, 2 blue balls, and you will be flown to Nopoonani, Tennessee. Then you will be flown to Platonictown, West Virginia. After that, you'll take a trip to Unwanted Wood, Alabama. When that's over, your final stop will be Upgraded Game, Utah. And that's if the court feels that you've learned your lesson.

Right now, you've got a long way to go. The court will order you find ways to be more interesting, and keep that fire lit. You are also ordered to become more challenging. I will also throw another book at you called The Book Of Pook.

I've got a meeting in chambers, so leave my courtroom and get to work.

Case closed. I am highly disappointed in you.

 

[maverick72]

Perservance

I'm going to read the DJ bible. Anyone have any links to direct me to the DJ bible?

 

[perseverance]

Nismo-4, what do you mean by challenge in that context?

 

[nismo-4]

Nismo-4, what do you mean by challenge in that context?

If he were to make these women work for his love. Women want what they can't have. The old "talk show interview" is barely arousing. but very arousing if done on a date with (insert famous talk show host here). Keep the woman on her toes. Be spontaneous. Don't give attention all the time. For damn sure don't reward bad behavior.

 

[maverick72]

peserverence

Good one perserverence. You may be right.

Anyone have a link to the DJ bible? http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/
But its cluttered with information.

Where do i start?

 

[Borknagar]

Even though a lot of people had some decent tips, a lot of times, it just doesn't work. I suggest going for ONS mainly. or same night lays.

Being a challenge doesn't really work, sure don't call or text too much give little info but know what happens? the girl will forget about you, and she won't initiate. And this is coming from a guy that can slay night game, and noone can tell me I'm not "good looking" enough when a lot of times women initiate ME!


When you learn that most nearly all women are only good for the first date or two, get the ***** and get out, you'll be much better off! You don't need a gf, noone does, or a wife, I'd probably get annoyed and bored with that unless she is indeed that awesome, but really chicks are awesome are always well spoken for.

On another note sure, be interesting and not boring like whats been said, but ask yourself, were these women all that interesting? Probably not. The only thing that is interesting about a women is her vagina. Women are a weekend thing for me, and nothing more. During the week I'm content going to the gym, and chillin in front of my PS3.

 

[nismo-4]

Even though a lot of people had some decent tips, a lot of times, it just doesn't work. I suggest going for ONS mainly. or same night lays.

Being a challenge doesn't really work, sure don't call or text too much give little info but know what happens? the girl will forget about you, and she won't initiate. And this is coming from a guy that can slay night game, and noone can tell me I'm not "good looking" enough when a lot of times women initiate ME!


When you learn that most nearly all women are only good for the first date or two, get the ***** and get out, you'll be much better off! You don't need a gf, noone does, or a wife, I'd probably get annoyed and bored with that unless she is indeed that awesome, but really chicks are awesome are always well spoken for.

On another note sure, be interesting and not boring like whats been said, but ask yourself, were these women all that interesting? Probably not. The only thing that is interesting about a women is her vagina. Women are a weekend thing for me, and nothing more. During the week I'm content going to the gym, and chillin in front of my PS3.

Pu$$y has a high market value due to the overpopulation of beta males.
Pu$$y has no face.
It's best to be direct. Not every girl is your type. Not every girl is gonna like you. Make your move with no fear! And for God's sake, make one!

I can agree with you in the fact that being a challenge can backfire. Yes because women have so many options in their phones if they really want to get laid.

 

[TopGun2000]

Good one perserverence. You may be right.

Anyone have a link to the DJ bible? http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/
But its cluttered with information.

Where do i start?

here you go

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/KillaPeteHog-DJBible.pdf

 

[Borknagar]

LOL I know that, I posted the "Going indirect is bull****! Go Direct FTW" Topic. I'm taking a couple new wingmen out who have only been in this a few weeks. I went direct all night Friday and every time he turned around I was making out with a new hottie and she was grinding on me. LOL But I'm tryin to show em the ropes. I could have got laid, I already know why I didn't leave with a girl, but should have. I kept going from to another, I should have escalated one girl, and kept her for the night. But it's fine. There's approx 8 weekend nights a month.

 

[backbreaker]

Pu$$y has a high market value due to the overpopulation of beta males.
Pu$$y has no face.
It's best to be direct. Not every girl is your type. Not every girl is gonna like you. Make your move with no fear! And for God's sake, make one!

I can agree with you in the fact that being a challenge can backfire. Yes because women have so many options in their phones if they really want to get laid.

but even then, all she's saying in a nutshell is that for whatever the reason, you didn't set the bait strong enough.


How can i say what i am about to say. I"m not the best with words so bare with me.


The alternative to playing hard to get/being a challenge, is basically be an AFC, and that is not acceptable. there is no middle ground. Not, because it won't get you laid every once in a blue moon because it will if you catch the right girl on the right time at the right place, especially if you are cute.

But because there is less than 0% chance of having a successful long term relationship, by successful meaning where you know she's not heating, sex is constant, and you have the correct frame.

The problem, no, the premise that is being made, is that getting laid is the end game. When you look at it in those terms, maybe, but it's not. It's the ability to have relationships on your terms with women you deem desirable.

And you know what, some people are going to flake out. That's just the way it is. Stop looking at it as a problem, when in reality it's a buffer. lol you are screening out women who are showing low IL (a term on this site i haven't seen in a good 5 years), then complaining about it working lol.

We only deal with High IL women. We want women who want to be with us. We do things like not stalk them, not call all the damn time, we take them on dates we want to do to see if they want just a free night out or if they are interested in US. We show them that we have a life outside them by staying busy (or at least pretending to be busy) We don't listen to every blathing thing they say, we go on dates with other women until they make us stop by showing they are that much better than the other women, and we don't lie about it when confronted.

You want a woman to not only like you but to appreciate you for who you are, and to have the correct frame, and to not feel like she's doing you a favor 6 months from now by being with you, there is a process that you have to go through with a woman, and it starts off by not being a pushover.

 

[maverick72]

Its mainly about goodlooks and less about confidence.

How many confident danny devito types vs. shy/diffident brad pitts are getting laid more?

Answer: Brad Pitt.

Women force very goodlooking men to be social. They approach you. Period.

I have had my share of cute women taking me out, buying me dinner, and sexing me for a night. I have also had my fair share of the opposite. I have also had girls bail on me too. All sorts of scenarios. Sometimes don juan material works and sometimes not.

I did an experiment and had been dating a real hot girl a while back. But her personality was annoying me. Anyway, I cut my hair really short after our 4th date. I made sure it was almost buzzed. When she saw me the next day night her interest level dropped like a brick. The next week she dumped me. Gee, and I thought she liked my personality. LOL.

 

[maverick72]

Im too old to be going to the clubs and "macking" on women or whatever the term is....

I have confidence. I just need to redirect it to other places...

I prefer a church girl over a bunch of club going girls.

 

[backbreaker]

rotfl, dude seriously, shut up and read the DJ bible. you don't know what you do not know and what you do know.

Its mainly about goodlooks and less about confidence.

How many confident danny devito types vs. shy/diffident brad pitts are getting laid more?

rotfl says the guy that got rejected 50 times in a row. hell in fact you prove the alternative to be true more than anything.


I am not busting your balls for the hell of it, I was you when i came here. Handsome, could get women interested, but could not keep them, thought i had the answer to everything, thought i was better then most/all the people here when i got here becuase i was in fact pretty handsome and had a relative amount of success with women, i just was 'having trouble with this one chick'. I'm telling you, don't do what i did, don't sit here trying to give advice while not take any for years and years while not growing and the next thing you know the girl that you knew that really did like you, everyone else just didn't get it, calls you drunk while she's getting plowed by someone other guy letting you hear her moan in the other end of the phone,etc. don't make the mistake i made.


If you are serious about getting this handled, stop posting and read the DJ bible. Then read ijt again and i could not be more serious. Once you get the frame of the bible down, then post about the questions you have about the bible.

the worst thing you can do is browse this forum without reading the bible because what you a re going to do is skip past 15 people telling you one thing, then read / find the one guy that agrees with you on something, then when that doesn't work you say "the hell to sosuave they don't know what they are talking about". i've been there too.

the truth is not always fruity and great tasting. The truth is you have issues, that you need to address, and you don't understand how the ame works at a fundamental level. The quicker you can accept that harsh truth, the better off you will be.

 

[NoCommitments]

The night I was out with this "one dater" I also saw my exgirlfriend that night too. (she had cheated on me last year) So it ended badly.
I saw my ex with her boyfriend who she had been dating for a year now. (The guy she slept with while we were dating.)

I HATE THAT B*TCH. In all actually I would smack her for all the crap she put me through and then disrespecting the way she did it. Just total selfishness, being inconsiderate, and lack of remorse. I worked my ass and time for her--something I will never do for a woman again.

Would I let her know that she hurt me? Hell no. I am like the Fonz. I keep my cool and walk right by her. I show no emotion.
I dont miss her and I am not jealous. I am just APPALLED at the way she treated me in the relationship. I wish I would have put my foot down more. It comes down to a way a human treats another human being. I will never let a woman do that to me again. This site has helped me keep my cool and walk away.

I haven't been on here for a really long time. Spending the past few months growing spiritually in every way (because of a few really really long failed relationships). I've studied human behavior, especially my own, and came to realize many things. One of the things I'm seeing a lot of is men & women continuing to add more people to their lives without truly healing from past experiences. Sorta like the old saying: "To get over someone you need to get under someone"

Your posts have triggered some emotions in me that I haven't felt in a while because I suffered in many ways with that "F*UCK the B*ITCH" attitude. I thought men should just not give a f*uck and keep banging other chicks. Well, my friend, take it from me, until you can truly be over your past and say that you're truly happy for her or anyone that has harmed you in the past, you will continue to project your lack of security and you'll resent every girl you're with. Its what you're attracting. You can't help it & you wont know why it's happening because on the surface you're "fine"... Following my last breakup I stacked girl after girl with the online dating scene. I figured 'I'm an alpha male, my duties are to hunt & conquer' but ironically I started feeling worse & worse. Then one day I woke up and said "I just really hate women" (not in a gay way) "I just cant stand women's bullsh*it and games" ...everything you've written I've felt. Until I finally realized the problem was actually ME. It was the energy I was emanating. Until I moved on & "grew up" I would not be able to have a steady loving relationship with myself or anyone else.

My suggestion; Aloneness. Give yourself time (ALONE) to figure out who you are so you can ultimately figure out who you want to be with. I don't know much about you or your life but from what you've written I can tell it's a very common issue that people don't address. You will say "dude I'm totally cool" but deep down you feel resentment, & that's a bad energy for any girl. They feel that s*hit like an earthquake..TRUST ME I've interviewed women about these subjects

So good luck with everything man. And most importantly take care of yourself. Forgive and move on. Be an Alpha MALE! You are the dominant one so: TAKE CARE OF YOU! THEN & ONLY THEN WILL YOU BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS!

 

[backbreaker]

I haven't been on here for a really long time. Spending the past few months growing spiritually in every way (because of a few really really long failed relationships). I've studied human behavior, especially my own, and came to realize many things. One of the things I'm seeing a lot of is men & women continuing to add more people to their lives without truly healing from past experiences. Sorta like the old saying: "To get over someone you need to get under someone"

Your posts have triggered some emotions in me that I haven't felt in a while because I suffered in many ways with that "F*UCK the B*ITCH" attitude. I thought men should just not give a f*ck and keep banging other chicks. Well, my friend, take it from me, until you can truly be over your past and say that you're truly happy for her or anyone that has harmed you in the past, you will continue to project your lack of security and you'll resent every girl you're with. Its what you're attracting. You can't help it & you wont know why it's happening because on the surface you're "fine"... following my last breakup I stacked girl after girl with the online dating scene. I figured 'I'm an alpha male, my duties are to hunt & conquer' but I start feeling worse & worse. . Then one day I woke up and said "I just hate women" (not in a gay way) "I just cant stand women's bullsh*it and games" ...everything you've written I've felt. Until I finally realized the problem was ME. It was the energy I was emanating. until I moved on & "grew up" I would not be able to have a steady loving relationship with myself or anyone else.

My suggestion; Aloneness. Give yourself time (ALONE) to figure out who you are so you can ultimately figure out who you want to be with. I don't know much about you or your life but from what you've written I can tell it's a very common issue that people don't address. You will say "dude I'm totally cool" but deep down you feel resentment & that's a bad energy for any girl, they feel that sh*t like an earthquake..TRUST ME I've interviewed many women about these subjects

So good luck with everything man. And most importantly take care of yourself. Forgive and move on. Be an Alpha MALE! You are the dominant one so take care of you and you'll start acting like that

holy fvcking sh!t

 

[floydb25]

Mav: It's really about both. Good looks will give you more chances, more time, allow certain things to slide, etc, but it won't last forever. Say, a girl finds you boring, but she's totally into you. She is going to give you time to stop being lame, and see if things don't improve. If they don't - she's still going to drop you. Experienced this countless times. You have to have certain attractive traits about you no matter what.

A good way to tell is when she continues to size you up, and contacts you with more opportunities. That means she's still interested. When she comments a lot on your character. Even if its not so great - she's still focusing on you. If she doesn't care - she won't comment on your traits, size you up, give you chances, etc.

I think this is where nice guys get confused, as well. It's not that the so-called jerk is so horrible, and the so-called nice guy is so perfect. The girl doesn't CARE about the NGs traits - so she just says "he's nice". But she goes on and on about the so-called jerk - because she's into him. She cares about his traits. She lists them ALL.

A girl that's into someone won't be turned off by his niceness - but will by his jerkiness. She's into him. She cares. It bothers her. That's why this happens. She'd be doing the SAME thing with the NG if she was into him. The jerk is still going to get dumped if he's truly a jerk. Shell just give him more chances.

On being a challenge: this only works if the girl is interested in the first place. It will increase their interest, but won't make someone interested.

It really comes down to if someone is into you or not. Even if they are, they can still lose interest. You need game.

 

[perseverance]

Its mainly about goodlooks and less about confidence.

How many confident danny devito types vs. shy/diffident brad pitts are getting laid more?

Answer: Brad Pitt.

Women force very goodlooking men to be social. They approach you. Period.

I have had my share of cute women taking me out, buying me dinner, and sexing me for a night. I have also had my fair share of the opposite. I have also had girls bail on me too. All sorts of scenarios. Sometimes don juan material works and sometimes not.

I did an experiment and had been dating a real hot girl a while back. But her personality was annoying me. Anyway, I cut my hair really short after our 4th date. I made sure it was almost buzzed. When she saw me the next day night her interest level dropped like a brick. The next week she dumped me. Gee, and I thought she liked my personality. LOL.

You've been more successful with women than I have and yet for some strange reason you're more bitter and frustrated than me, because I am not bitter or frustrated at all. I'm not quite sure how that works. I've never had a woman ask me out, treat me to dinner and then sex me afterwards. If anyone should be frustrated it's me, not you. :crackup:

It seems where me and you differ is that you allow women to determine your self esteem, your self worth and that's something that I'll never do after coming onto this site. Seriously read the Book of Pook, don't read it once, read it several times like I did. Then select the chapters that are most relevant to you. Get a pad and pen and make bullet points of all the things that you need drummed into your head. After you have done this start reciting those points, even shout them to yourself if needs be. That's worked for me and even now I still go back to the book of pook to refresh my memory.

 

[The_411]

Yes, being better looking gives you an advantage but not in the way you think.

When women see a good ooking guy they make the assumption he will be more confident becuase they believe that because the guy is good looking he knows and will have the corresponding confidence to go along with it. Usually that is the case; however ever notice those good looking guys that have trouble getting anywhere with women? The reason ... they lack confidence. They have a big advantage but are so insecure, boring, dull that they blow their advantage and get blown out by guys with much less going for them in the looks department.

 

[floydb25]

411: And that's when you know you have to change for the better - when you get defeated when you shouldn't have. Give you an example:

Was dating an 8 at work. The best looking one by far - got all the attention from guys. She was initially attracted because I was confident, sociable, and "very attractive". I was also popular and had a lot of friends outside of work, so there was always something to do. But, my confidence was with everyone but her. With her, I was AFC extreme. I lost her to someone who was, according to every female, way below me. No one could understand it. For the longest time, I couldn't either. I honestly don't think she could either. She tried and tried, and I kept screwing up. Gave me 3 months to improve, and I never did.

Like you said, the problems were: no confidence, insecure, and dull. Also, needy, clingy, desperate, and other weak behaviors.

This other guy was the opposite. He didn't have the looks, wasn't well-liked, and numerous other things, but around her, he was on. He was confident, assertive, exciting, unafraid, embraced his sexuality, etc. He won her over without trying very hard. Whereas, I tried too hard.

I think its even worse when you have someone; they're totally into you; contacting you non-stop - then lose interest because YOU messed it all up. This happened so many times in the past. Looking back, it all came down to insecurity and fear. Even acting like a jerk, and losing them that way.

 

[maverick72]

Backbreaker!! Nerds!!!

F*ck off you little punk! I'm not going take advice from a 28 yr old douchebag who follows some gay guy named POOK! YOU CALL ME SIR!

Is Pook is your butt lover? I took the DJ bible and threw it in the garbage. I have been with more women then you can shake a your little stick at and I lied about being rejected by 50 women. I bedded them all and laugh at this website.

You are all bunch weak minded NERDS who still s*ck your thumbs and hope to get laid by reading some gay, goofy manual by some fag named POOK??? LOL A BUNCH OF FOLLOWERS AND CONFORMISTS.

What a GAY ASS NAME. DELETE MY ACCOUNT. I DON'T NEED NO STINKIN WEBSITE with terms like HB8, LTR, AFC---is that Star Trek lingo for picking up women?

Gets out my walkie talkie----"Hey guys I am macking on a HB10 who is talking to an AFC 12 o clock, and he is trying to get an LTR but I'm moving in for a BJ after reading the DJ bible." LOL!!!

NERDS.