Sick of women and their BS....last date was a joke!

[maverick72]

I have met a lot of women of dating sites. I'm goodlooking, normal, fun personality, dress very nice, nice teeth, talk show host type questions, kidding around, flirting, etc.
I meet hot women on dates after they see my photos so obviously I am handsome. Then when I meet them they tell me I look like my photos.

The problem is I cannot get them interested in me after the first date. I have gone through 50 women this year and all of them were "1 daters." I had a few lays in between. But the most part women ditch me after the first date.

They love talking to me and feeling comfortable. They will even hang with me for 5 hours on a first date. But the result is always the same--goodbye and goodluck with a kiss on the cheek or a hug or maybe a kiss on the lips. Some have even turned their cheek when I went to kiss them. The ultimate insult. I would love to smack them in the face for the insult. Why waste my time?

If they do not find me attractive then why hang out with me for 5 hours on a first date? I sometimes will force myself to flirt with them early on in the date to detect interest and if its not there--I end the date quickly. I hate time wasters.

I finally asked one woman a month ago after our 2nd date(luckily made it that far) why she lost interest? She said I was needy, controlling, and insecure. She came over and I cooked for her. Actually I never found her attractive--but wanted to get laid. I showed her photos an old house I grew up in that was later destroyed(sharing stuff with her), how is that insecure? I even wrestled with her on the floor and we kissed. How is that controlling? I cooked for myself and she thought I cooked for her. How is that needy?

I think women are FULL OF THEMSELVES and have big egos. I think they are image conscious and want a handsome man to be around to make themselves feel good. Maybe I am not handsome and thats turning them off. They are just lying to me not to hurt my feelings. I cannot understand what I a doing wrong? So many ladies are slipping on by me. I used to get laid a lot. But nowadays when women meet me they have their arms folded. They dont flirt back when I flirt with them or they are just quiet or when I kiss them they turn their cheek. Maybe give them a challenge?


The last girl I had a date with we spent kissing on parking lot when it ended. Then she called me 3 times that night after date and I didnt answer her calls. Then i finally did on 3rd call. She said she had agreat time. I said lets meet again. She said ok! I texted her to say hi the next day. And she blows me off. I havent heard from her since. Flake! Im sick of the BS.
Any suggestions? Im ready to move to the woods and be a monk.

 

[latino158]

Think about it for minute, why do you want a girlfriend? deep down the most important thing you want is to have sex, right? we all want that

then get an escort every week, and if money is tight, then once a month, as easy as that .. that's what i do

let's analyze this situation :

what can women really give you besides sex?

- you do not a girlfriend in order to be happy
- you do not a female friend, men and women cannot be real friends anyways
- you can have friends who listen to you, you dont need a woman for that
- you have family who really love you, family are the only ones who will be permanent, a girl is not, even if she is your wife
- women will not give you money, is the other way around
-


Deep down, the only reason men want to learn all these PUA stuff and become better with women, is to have sex and sex and more sex, this is the only reason, anyone who denies it, is ****ing hypocrite

Women do not offer you anything besides sex, women are completely replaceable

Therefore, you are going to spend money on a girl, to take her out, and stuff, just in hope to have sex with her, and even then after spending all that money, it doesn't guarantee she will give you sex, she will not give sex that easily, most girls dont, and when she does, she won't even satisfy you like an escort

you can get an escort, and have sex with a woman who really knows how to please men, will let you do any kind of positions, give you real good blowj0s and will treat you girlfriend experience, and you won't have to deal with her bull**** or whatever

Only reason men want girlfriend, is because they want to have free sex, this is the reason why men are superficial, and only pursue hot women, they do not care about average women, the only reason this website exist, is because men want to become really good at attracting and getting HOT WOMEN, so they can have sex with them all the time they want for free

 

[Drdeee]

Gotta work on needy controlling insecure part. First step realize why they said that.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Think about it for minute, why do you want a girlfriend? deep down the most important thing you want is to have sex, right? we all want that

then get an escort every week, and if money is tight, then once a month, as easy as that .. that's what i do

let's analyze this situation :

what can women really give you besides sex?

- you do not a girlfriend in order to be happy
- you do not a female friend, men and women cannot be real friends anyways
- you can have friends who listen to you, you dont need a woman for that
- you have family who really love you, family are the only ones who will be permanent, a girl is not, even if she is your wife
- women will not give you money, is the other way around
-


Deep down, the only reason men want to learn all these PUA stuff and become better with women, is to have sex and sex and more sex, this is the only reason, anyone who denies it, is ****ing hypocrite

Women do not offer you anything besides sex, women are completely replaceable

Therefore, you are going to spend money on a girl, to take her out, and stuff, just in hope to have sex with her, and even then after spending all that money, it doesn't guarantee she will give you sex, she will not give sex that easily, most girls dont, and when she does, she won't even satisfy you like an escort

you can get an escort, and have sex with a woman who really knows how to please men, will let you do any kind of positions, give you real good blowj0s and will treat you girlfriend experience, and you won't have to deal with her bull**** or whatever

Only reason men want girlfriend, is because they want to have free sex, this is the reason why men are superficial, and only pursue hot women, they do not care about average women, the only reason this website exist, is because men want to become really good at attracting and getting HOT WOMEN, so they can have sex with them all the time they want for free

This is Complete bull****. IMO

 

[Mike32ct]

I've been through the same thing. Online dating is extremely competitve. Do you have any idea how many guys are emailing any decent looking broad? As a result, they are very picky.

Just meet them for a drink or coffee for date #1. Keep the investment to an absolute minimum.

 

[macagent]

I've been through the same thing. Online dating is extremely competitve. Do you have any idea how many guys are emailing any decent looking broad? As a result, they are very picky.

Just meet them for a drink or coffee for date #1. Keep the investment to an absolute minimum.

This. 5 hours is too long for a 1st date anyway, unless you are screwing for 2 of those...

 

[bigneil]

Maverick72 wrote: "She said I was needy, controlling, and insecure."

As Drdeee noted, this is the problem. Your bad luck streak is leading you to be off balance in your new dates and they sense this. As macagent noted, the first date should be short.

latino158 wrote: "Women do not offer you anything besides sex."

As SamTheHobbit noted, this is not true. Women can offer love. It's hard to find but it's a great feeling when you have a woman who loves you. She will want to kiss you, hug you, hold you, be with you and have sex with you at all times. To the point where she becomes "needy, controlling and insecure". If she's rationing any of those things, it's a really bad sign.

 

[Tortendieb]

You didn't even find her attractive anymore? Well fat chance. How will a girl feel sexy and desired by you if you don't like her?

Dating can sometimes be a little stressful and you need persistance. If a girl's not hot you will be looking for shortcuts to sex and will come off as a cold&needy bastard. Will work only with SUPER DESPERATE girls. Personal experience...

 

[universitycharmer]

First of all man, a first date should not be nearly that long, try maybe 3 hours max. Second of all, in my opinion, you shouldnt have a girl over to cook for her for at least 2 months in to dating, this is like a gift which shouldnt be exchanged until 2 months MINIMUM. What you could try is to not interact too much while on the dating site, simply try to get some numbers then talk to the girl long enough on the phone so that she would feel comfortable going for coffee with you. On this date keep it rather short and make sure to make her laugh alot and connect with her.

 

[st_99]

Maybe you're not sauve enough? Not coming across as sexual? Maybe too goofy? IDK. Just a thought.

 

[Gray The Prince]

Think about it for minute, why do you want a girlfriend? deep down the most important thing you want is to have sex, right? we all want that

then get an escort every week, and if money is tight, then once a month, as easy as that .. that's what i do

let's analyze this situation :

what can women really give you besides sex?

- you do not a girlfriend in order to be happy
- you do not a female friend, men and women cannot be real friends anyways
- you can have friends who listen to you, you dont need a woman for that
- you have family who really love you, family are the only ones who will be permanent, a girl is not, even if she is your wife
- women will not give you money, is the other way around
-


Deep down, the only reason men want to learn all these PUA stuff and become better with women, is to have sex and sex and more sex, this is the only reason, anyone who denies it, is ****ing hypocrite

Women do not offer you anything besides sex, women are completely replaceable

Therefore, you are going to spend money on a girl, to take her out, and stuff, just in hope to have sex with her, and even then after spending all that money, it doesn't guarantee she will give you sex, she will not give sex that easily, most girls dont, and when she does, she won't even satisfy you like an escort

you can get an escort, and have sex with a woman who really knows how to please men, will let you do any kind of positions, give you real good blowj0s and will treat you girlfriend experience, and you won't have to deal with her bull**** or whatever

Only reason men want girlfriend, is because they want to have free sex, this is the reason why men are superficial, and only pursue hot women, they do not care about average women, the only reason this website exist, is because men want to become really good at attracting and getting HOT WOMEN, so they can have sex with them all the time they want for free

This is Complete bull****. IMO

I thought I'd never EVER say this...but I happily agree with Sam the Hobbit on this one.

 

[Mike32ct]

Agree. And to add to this, keep that coffeedate short, ie 1 hour tops. And, Maverick, my advice is to just relax a bit and slow things down a little. No dinner and definitely no lengthy time commitments on the first date. Make her show you that she's worth your time. Take her out for coffee and let her do the talking. See how eager she is to know you. Don't rush the kiss and lay attempts.

Agreed. I used to get way too comfortable and end up chatting for hours. That never worked.

 

[Single4Life]

I am only guessing, but from what you tell me.....

I would say it's because they don't feel sexual attraction, no chemistry.

Maybe you have to make yourself more interesting and sexual, and less of a goofball with high energy? I don't know. I am only guessing.

 

[Jariel]

I'm experiencing the exact same thing. All positive signs, compliments, tell me I look like my photos (some said I'm hotter in person), lots of flirting, talk of our next date and 9/10 of these dates end with us making out at the end of the night. Some of these dates have led to sex, but very rarely do any of them go beyond 3 dates.

In fact, after the first successful dates, some of these women have told me outright they think I'm hot. One girl said when she saw me she thought "wow!" and felt like a schoolgirl with a crush. When I lose their interest it's usually much later into a date or a day or two after the date.

I have spent a lot of time questioning myself, I even got some input from a female friend and tried to adapt, but still the same result. On some occasions I've been a gent and the women have told me they didn't feel the sexual chemistry. Other times I've been told I talk about sex too much. And there are time when sex talk has led to us having sex.

I would get quite paranoid if it wasn't for the fact that this only happens with girls I really like. Yet 100% of those I'm not interested in are really keen to see me again and many have developed an obsession (for over a year in some cases).

I think the clue is right there. Although I'm not conscious of it, perhaps I'm coming on too strong with women I like or sending out some overbearing vibes. I look back and I think about how I texted a few of these girls straight after our date, or replied to several of their texts the same night. I also recall the last time I saw my FWB I told her I would make time for her because she's worth it. I also told one girl I would skip work to see her. Perhaps it's little comments like this that scare them off. On the other hand, when I'm aloof with girls after a date, they go crazy for me.

But if you find any answers or have any theories I'm very interested to hear them. For now, I'm just gaming these women for sex and short term flings. Now that I can do.

 

[Jariel]

This is Complete bull****. IMO

Yeah I agree. I do alright when it comes to sex, but I'd actually like more from a woman to be honest - the sort of intimate companionship and mutual affection you can't get from your mates. I've had a lot of amazing dates with women that didn't lead to sex, and came away really happy to have had that experience. Sometimes it's just the little things like cuddling up and snogging in a cinema, walking hand in hand, fun conversations, play fighting or just learning about that person and connecting with them.

 

[TopGun2000]

Same experience

only two possible outcomes
1, become cold-hearted to all women no matter if you like them or not
2, meet a girl who likes you for who you are, no need for game playing

#1 is much is a easier route though

I'm experiencing the exact same thing. All positive signs, compliments, tell me I look like my photos (some said I'm hotter in person), lots of flirting, talk of our next date and 9/10 of these dates end with us making out at the end of the night. Some of these dates have led to sex, but very rarely do any of them go beyond 3 dates.

In fact, after the first successful dates, some of these women have told me outright they think I'm hot. One girl said when she saw me she thought "wow!" and felt like a schoolgirl with a crush. When I lose their interest it's usually much later into a date or a day or two after the date.

I have spent a lot of time questioning myself, I even got some input from a female friend and tried to adapt, but still the same result. On some occasions I've been a gent and the women have told me they didn't feel the sexual chemistry. Other times I've been told I talk about sex too much. And there are time when sex talk has led to us having sex.

I would get quite paranoid if it wasn't for the fact that this only happens with girls I really like. Yet 100% of those I'm not interested in are really keen to see me again and many have developed an obsession (for over a year in some cases).

I think the clue is right there. Although I'm not conscious of it, perhaps I'm coming on too strong with women I like or sending out some overbearing vibes. I look back and I think about how I texted a few of these girls straight after our date, or replied to several of their texts the same night. I also recall the last time I saw my FWB I told her I would make time for her because she's worth it. I also told one girl I would skip work to see her. Perhaps it's little comments like this that scare them off. On the other hand, when I'm aloof with girls after a date, they go crazy for me.

But if you find any answers or have any theories I'm very interested to hear them. For now, I'm just gaming these women for sex and short term flings. Now that I can do.

 

[Jariel]

so why are they on internet dating sites????
Only thing i can assume is that they are looking for some very specific typoe of man, who tickes every single box...ie good looking, charming, smart..but not too smart, rich but made it himself, specific type of religion and music and movies and books...blah blah blah...
that guy dont exist but apparently lots of women are dumb enough to think he is out there...plus anyguy who ticks the first 3 boxes of good looking, charming and wealthy will never be dumb enough to settle for one woman anyhow.
Looks like you just dont tick all the boxes they are looking for apparently, but if you were charming enough it would override all the other expectations anyhow, so i guess your not as slick as you think.

I think you have a very valid point here and this is something I have picked up on too. If you speak to a lot of these women and ask why they're single, many of them will say it's because they're too picky. If they had to choose between 10 guys, they would pick the one closest to their ideal man and overlook his flaws or minor mistmatches. But when a girl has 500+ guys to choose from, she's going to continue seeking someone more suited to her. Women are indecisive by nature anyway. If you allowed a woman to choose from 500 pairs of shoes, she'd never be able to settle with one pair, especially if there was no time limit imposed on her.

But (following on from my earlier reply) if you was to give her a choice of 499 shoes and make one pair unavailable to her, you can bet she will show more interest in the forbidden pair than any of the others. And I'm now thinking that is the key to success with internet dating.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I'm experiencing the exact same thing. All positive signs, compliments, tell me I look like my photos (some said I'm hotter in person), lots of flirting, talk of our next date and 9/10 of these dates end with us making out at the end of the night. Some of these dates have led to sex, but very rarely do any of them go beyond 3 dates.

In fact, after the first successful dates, some of these women have told me outright they think I'm hot. One girl said when she saw me she thought "wow!" and felt like a schoolgirl with a crush. When I lose their interest it's usually much later into a date or a day or two after the date.

I have spent a lot of time questioning myself, I even got some input from a female friend and tried to adapt, but still the same result. On some occasions I've been a gent and the women have told me they didn't feel the sexual chemistry. Other times I've been told I talk about sex too much. And there are time when sex talk has led to us having sex.

I would get quite paranoid if it wasn't for the fact that this only happens with girls I really like. Yet 100% of those I'm not interested in are really keen to see me again and many have developed an obsession (for over a year in some cases).

I think the clue is right there. Although I'm not conscious of it, perhaps I'm coming on too strong with women I like or sending out some overbearing vibes. I look back and I think about how I texted a few of these girls straight after our date, or replied to several of their texts the same night. I also recall the last time I saw my FWB I told her I would make time for her because she's worth it. I also told one girl I would skip work to see her. Perhaps it's little comments like this that scare them off. On the other hand, when I'm aloof with girls after a date, they go crazy for me.

But if you find any answers or have any theories I'm very interested to hear them. For now, I'm just gaming these women for sex and short term flings. Now that I can do.

Other dudes. In my experience of late, I'm suspecting other dudes she bounces "ideas" off of, putting adverse thoughts about Me (who the dudes giving her "advice" don't even know or Also, just as much so, other women giving her advice about "her date," about "this guy," "um, I don't know how to take what he said about..." and "he did this..." "What does that mean?" - you see, she always must "consult," she has that cellphone immediately after the date "consulting" whoever will hear/answer about the meaning of this or that, all the way down to what fvckin DRINK you decided to purchase to drink or maybe how you purchased your drink or even HOW you interacted with the lowly female clerk at Starbucks or something.) And as we know, almost ALL (both men and women) of the "consultants" (because she can't think for herself) who answer her phonecall after your date(s) WILL SAY something adverse or negative about "what this GUY, on my date 'Did'/'said when he 'did'/'said' this" umm "omg" "really?" what a "creap" or "weirdo" or "loser" or whatever. Women are Fvcked because of their idol worship of the oracle that is the cellphone. Who says nice stuff about people they've never even met, UNLESS the media has programmed them to say nice things about someone they've never even met, like Hank Paulson, Ben Bernanke, Barack Obama, or the Prince Henry, or Jennifer Aniston, or whoever pays millions to PR people to make themselves "look good." You and me, average guy, don't have the luxury that the 1.1% of these guys every woman wants to fvck has. Knowing all that, makes me as devious and calculating as I have ever been in trying to get into an hb5, 6, 7, 8 or 9's pants. It's just reality nowadays, due to the oracle that is the iphone, the blackberry, the android, the latest punch-&-and-yap-until-my-fingers/lips bleed device. This cellphone idol worship is fvcking up our chances more than ever guys. Who needs these $150 monthly plans??

 

[gaspipe]

It comes down to the notion that single women, especially those on dating sites, are constantly looking for the bigger and better deal.

Have you ever observed women shopping? They cant seem to make up their minds. They will see a particluar item, be it a pair of shoes or a blouse. At first they will squeal with delight as they try on said item and then their attention will be immediately drawn to something else and the item that they were initially excited about is left hanging in the changing room.

When I was married, I would avoid going to the shopping malls with my then wife because it I knew I would be spending the better part of my day going from store to store for hours before her finally deciding what she wanted.

The same concept applies to women choosing men these days. At first blush she may like what she sees, but sooner or later something better in her eyes is going to draw her attention, hence the much dreaded flake after a couple of dates.

In order to make it through the dating process, especially with hot women, you really and I mean really have to stand out.

In all likelihood, it is something you cant really avoid. You can make a great impression, but at the end of the day, unless the girl is absolutely smitten with you, which is usually not the case, some other dude is going to enter the picture and draw her away from you. Its just a fact of life when even a mediocre looking woman is getting tons of emails in her inbox on a daily basis.

 

[maverick72]

Sometimes smacking a woman has benefits

The night I was out with this "one dater" I also saw my exgirlfriend that night too. (she had cheated on me last year) So it ended badly.
I saw my ex with her boyfriend who she had been dating for a year now. (The guy she slept with while we were dating.)

I HATE THAT B*TCH. In all actually I would smack her for all the crap she put me through and then disrespecting the way she did it. Just total selfishness, being inconsiderate, and lack of remorse. I worked my ass and time for her--something I will never do for a woman again.

Would I let her know that she hurt me? Hell no. I am like the Fonz. I keep my cool and walk right by her. I show no emotion.
I dont miss her and I am not jealous. I am just APPALLED at the way she treated me in the relationship. I wish I would have put my foot down more. It comes down to a way a human treats another human being. I will never let a woman do that to me again. This site has helped me keep my cool and walk away.