"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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napoleon

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I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Tha Realnezz

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Originally posted by napoleon
I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.

Date close.


And alot of chics do this..:down: That's why you call once then move on.If she really liked you then she would pick up the phone don't you think.
 

napoleon

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I like this step:



"ep 7: Call the number right away.
Once you get her number, call her right there. First, this will ensure that you got the right phone number, and second she will have your number on her caller ID.

A favorite routine that we teach in our workshops (credit: Wilder) is to call her right there and have a conversation with her on the phone. She will be right next to you of course. Tell her that she must be excited when you call. Have her practice enthusiastically saying “Hey, Dan… Wow! I’m so happy you called!” Make her say this, or make her express some enthusiasm and excitement. Even if she is partially faking the excitement, it will help her convince herself that she is excited. Have a short phone conversation with her and tell her “ok, now we’ve got our first phone call out of the way, so next time it won’t be awkward.”

Remembering why women flake, we want to appeal to her social group. There are two approaches you can take. One, if she is with a boyfriend, etc. Be super discreet, and show her that you can be discreet. Have her tell you her number and memorize it, and don’t whip out your cell phone in front of everybody. Be smooth.

On the other hand, if her friends all like you and want to help her, then be very explicit. Tell her friends what you are doing. You can even ask them if it’s ok. Her friends will love this, and then they will be pressuring her to go out with you. Great! Now she has to show up. "
 

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In response to the original post, do not do that. You will look insecure or weird, which will kill any potential attraction in a pick up.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by napoleon
I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.
do this, but re-arrange your saying.
 

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#s hardly count

Getting the number is not important. Having women you've attracted eagerly give you their # is.

The idea is to have a good interaction and work up some attraction, not to simply get the phone #.
 

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Dont say that line you suggested, if she does like you, it will make her reconsider! Getting the number is ussualy the last thing you do, so change somthing around here and dont make it the last thing, dont get the number, turn around and go, cary on talking instead!

Girls veiw oyu asking for there number as the thing you will do before you leavle, so they will give you there number even if its just because they are glad you are about to leave them alone.

You need to build more attraction before you number close!

A good idea from the mystery method is to put a flase time constraint in near the start of the aproach, for example say you cant stay for long. This weill reasure her you wont be bugging her for long and once she realsies she wont have you here for ever she might just pay you a bit more attention!
 

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Take more time to create attraction/build rapport before asking for the number. As a general rule, the quicker you number close, the greater probabilty of a flake.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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There goes David D's 3 second rule. Rapport is good.
 

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1) Time bridge
2) Qualify her
3) Build COMFORT
4) Closing should be an afterthought, not an "event".
 
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