"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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napoleon

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I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tha Realnezz

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Originally posted by napoleon
I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.

Date close.


And alot of chics do this..:down: That's why you call once then move on.If she really liked you then she would pick up the phone don't you think.
 

napoleon

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I like this step:



"ep 7: Call the number right away.
Once you get her number, call her right there. First, this will ensure that you got the right phone number, and second she will have your number on her caller ID.

A favorite routine that we teach in our workshops (credit: Wilder) is to call her right there and have a conversation with her on the phone. She will be right next to you of course. Tell her that she must be excited when you call. Have her practice enthusiastically saying “Hey, Dan… Wow! I’m so happy you called!” Make her say this, or make her express some enthusiasm and excitement. Even if she is partially faking the excitement, it will help her convince herself that she is excited. Have a short phone conversation with her and tell her “ok, now we’ve got our first phone call out of the way, so next time it won’t be awkward.”

Remembering why women flake, we want to appeal to her social group. There are two approaches you can take. One, if she is with a boyfriend, etc. Be super discreet, and show her that you can be discreet. Have her tell you her number and memorize it, and don’t whip out your cell phone in front of everybody. Be smooth.

On the other hand, if her friends all like you and want to help her, then be very explicit. Tell her friends what you are doing. You can even ask them if it’s ok. Her friends will love this, and then they will be pressuring her to go out with you. Great! Now she has to show up. "
 

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In response to the original post, do not do that. You will look insecure or weird, which will kill any potential attraction in a pick up.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Originally posted by napoleon
I find myself havin a lot of numbers but girls dont respond. So I find myself thinking, could I say something like this:

Hey you could gimme your number, but if you really dont wanna go out with me why should I bother writing your phone down? It will save us some time!

I know you will be saying thats putting the ball in her court but I'm sick of flakes.
do this, but re-arrange your saying.
 

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#s hardly count

Getting the number is not important. Having women you've attracted eagerly give you their # is.

The idea is to have a good interaction and work up some attraction, not to simply get the phone #.
 

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Dont say that line you suggested, if she does like you, it will make her reconsider! Getting the number is ussualy the last thing you do, so change somthing around here and dont make it the last thing, dont get the number, turn around and go, cary on talking instead!

Girls veiw oyu asking for there number as the thing you will do before you leavle, so they will give you there number even if its just because they are glad you are about to leave them alone.

You need to build more attraction before you number close!

A good idea from the mystery method is to put a flase time constraint in near the start of the aproach, for example say you cant stay for long. This weill reasure her you wont be bugging her for long and once she realsies she wont have you here for ever she might just pay you a bit more attention!
 

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Take more time to create attraction/build rapport before asking for the number. As a general rule, the quicker you number close, the greater probabilty of a flake.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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There goes David D's 3 second rule. Rapport is good.
 

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1) Time bridge
2) Qualify her
3) Build COMFORT
4) Closing should be an afterthought, not an "event".
 
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