"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

SICK OF DRIVING! have her drive :)

Gamble

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
75
Reaction score
0
This friday me and this girl were planning to hang out, but everytime we hang out, I always pick her up, which I now find annoying! I want her to come to my house and from there I'll drive her. Should I tell her, "Hey you like me, so why don't you show some interest and come to my pad" Also, she always wants to hang out after I drop her off, this time I will tell her to come to my room and I will proceed with my staff of wisdom. So my question is; it's cool for them to drive too right? I don't want to be the one that ALWAYS picks her up; seems afc wouldn't you agree?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

blackbelt2k

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 4, 2007
Messages
467
Reaction score
1
Location
NJ / NYC
Its been my experience, women are horrible drivers..so if you trust her with your life, then sure let her drive. I personally only trust myself and a select few other males with driving.
 

Gamble

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
75
Reaction score
0
well, I want her to drive to my house, and I would drive her from there. Any other opinions?
 

Francisco d'Anconia

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 10, 2003
Messages
15,481
Reaction score
65
Location
Galt's Gulch
Gamble said:
well, I want her to drive to my house, and I would drive her from there. Any other opinions?
Why not? I pick up women probably 20% of the time. Why? How often are you kept waiting when you get to their house? At least they're ready when they get to your place (hopefully). Although I do have a couple that get to my place with curling iron in hand asking if they could finish up their hair before we leave. Sure.... (Back to the X-Box)...
 

Gamble

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
75
Reaction score
0
Francisco d'Anconia said:
Why not? I pick up women probably 20% of the time. Why? How often are you kept waiting when you get to their house? At least they're ready when they get to your place (hopefully). Although I do have a couple that get to my place with curling iron in hand asking if they could finish up their hair before we leave. Sure.... (Back to the X-Box)...
well everytime I pick her up, it seems she is always prepared; i tell her to come outside and she does promptly.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

aussiegoat55

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jan 13, 2007
Messages
210
Reaction score
1
Gamble said:
This friday me and this girl were planning to hang out, but everytime we hang out, I always pick her up, which I now find annoying! I want her to come to my house and from there I'll drive her. Should I tell her, "Hey you like me, so why don't you show some interest and come to my pad" Also, she always wants to hang out after I drop her off, this time I will tell her to come to my room and I will proceed with my staff of wisdom. So my question is; it's cool for them to drive too right? I don't want to be the one that ALWAYS picks her up; seems afc wouldn't you agree?
The girl I'm seeing now lives about 40 minutes from me, luckily we have an unspoken agreement of sharing the driving 50/50, which means she plans some of the dates, and pays for some of them too.

Just say, "Hey, why don't you come up/down to (your city)?"
 

Kev07

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 2, 2006
Messages
1,706
Reaction score
9
Location
Bay Area, California, Currently in SoCal (UCR)
I don't trust women driving.

I was driving back from LA to norcal (6 hour drive) for 4 hours, I got tired and had trouble keeping my eyes open so I told my friend's girl to take the wheel

Well she ended up missing our exit and go on for an additional 1.5 hours north, where I work up, realized where we were, kicked her out of the drivers seat and drove back 1.5 hours back home

oh she also almost ran a stopsign, stopped in the middle of the intersection and almost hit a car
 

Francisco d'Anconia

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 10, 2003
Messages
15,481
Reaction score
65
Location
Galt's Gulch
Kev07 said:
I don't trust women driving.

I was driving back from LA to norcal (6 hour drive) for 4 hours, I got tired and had trouble keeping my eyes open so I told my friend's girl to take the wheel

Well she ended up missing our exit and go on for an additional 1.5 hours north, where I work up, realized where we were, kicked her out of the drivers seat and drove back 1.5 hours back home
Portable GPS receivers are definitely come in handy in such situations.
Kev07 said:
oh she also almost ran a stopsign, stopped in the middle of the intersection and almost hit a car
Or maybe not. Maybe wait a little bit after she's had her learner's permit for a while. :p
 

I'm Joe Dirt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 7, 2005
Messages
667
Reaction score
4
Location
Chicago, IL
I don't have a car and the girl I have been with the last year and a half almost drives us both everywhere. It's a pretty sweet deal, assuming she is a safe driver. I help out by paying for gas once in a while though.

I think as long as you both can live with the arrangement things will work out any way you divy up the driving. If she really hates to drive, you may have to, but if she is cool with it, you could probably get away with it. Just avoid making it a big deal and things will work themselves out.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

monster squad

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2006
Messages
186
Reaction score
0
Age
48
Last October I went to Cape May for the weekend with a few friends of mine. We were getting into the car near the boardwalk (if you can really call it one) this man who must have been in his 70's was sitting there on a bench with his wife. As soon as he saw a girl get into the driver's seat he started yelling at me, telling me that "MEN should always be the one driving". I later reflected on what this man said, and realized that he was absolutely right. I haven't let a women drive since.
 

Night Owl

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jul 22, 2007
Messages
207
Reaction score
5
Location
UK
Last time I let a woman drive I ended up in hospital for six months in traction with broken back , arm, wrist and fingers. It took me a month to learn how to walk again. I never get in a car driven by a women, I would rather walk... !!
 

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
I had been dating a girl that when I started dating, would always pick her up because I had thought it was the gentlemenly thing to do. Well, that got really annoying after about 2-3 weeks (she lived 30 minutes away, so it was like an hour round trip!) Anyway, it was a huge turn off that she never offered to drive up to see me, I thought it was disappointing that I finally had to tell her she had to come to my place. I guess she had to borrow her parent's car.

When we went out places I was always the one to drive, though. You're in control, right?
 
Top