"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shy girls

the_afc

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Hey, I need help on something ….

There is this girl I know and I'm interested in, but she is very shy!
She is extremely shy, quiet, don’t talk much and don’t let others know how she is feeling.
She is also very depended on her friends. I tried to talk to her couple of times but she only gave some short answers in return. She not like that just with me, she is with everybody.

How to I handle girls like that?
Any suggestions?

Thx
the_afc
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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G-Man UK

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As Black Italian would say 'slap her with your pen1s'

Ninja Out
 

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Ask her out... she'll be more friendly when you're both alone.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I also think you should get her alone, away from her friends. This way she will stop thinking about how she should act, and will feel better (and will associate that with you!).
 

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Originally posted by the_afc
Hey, I need help on something ….

There is this girl I know and I'm interested in, but she is very shy!
She is extremely shy, quiet, don’t talk much and don’t let others know how she is feeling.
She is also very depended on her friends. I tried to talk to her couple of times but she only gave some short answers in return. She not like that just with me, she is with everybody.

How to I handle girls like that?
Any suggestions?

Thx
the_afc
Get her into a situation where she feels comfortable for your initial date. If she's got a favorite coffee shop/bar/club/hangout that you can go to, go there. The familiar location should help put her more at ease and more comfortable with herself.

This is a case where I would do some homework and ask one of her friends, casually, if there is any place they all like to hang at, that way you can suggest someplace she likes right off the bat.

Once you get her out, open up to her moreso than you would with a more extroverted broad. She'll be more receptive to your company and more likely to open up if you're being open with her.
 
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