"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shy girls

The Bat

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How do you deal with shy/conservative girls? I'm familiar with the "be yourself and if you are a fun person she'll be attracted to you" mantra. But I'm asking in regards to measuring interest level. In your experience, do you take things very slowly but then again, define "slowly"?

I've got an artsy/conservative plate right now. She is all into painting and photography and at the same time she says she is a very devout religious person. My intentions with this plate is just to have fun as my intentions normally are with any plate I come across. However, this one is a bit shy, keeps-to-herself but definitely a friendly gal if you talk to her.

If anyone has had experience with this situation, please do share. Or just PM me the whole life story.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The Bat

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Nothing? Or should I ask this in Mature section?
 

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DonGorgon said:
Girls are not shy they either like you or they dont.
This is bull ****.

Shy girls are easily intimidated by guys and you must get them to be comfortable with you before they open up.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Remember one shy girl I met who I had a date with. We talked for prob 2 hours and I couldnt get a clue on wheter she was interested or not. We went back to my place since it was close by and I saw it as an interest but still she was indifferant. Talked bout 15 min at my place and still same indifference.

Then I kissed her out of the blue and 10 min later we were in my bed with our clothes off.


If she's really shy then YOU need to check if she's interested or not by checking her boundries to you. She wont give you any signs of interest. Grab your sack and go for it. Most shy girls will prob eye you when you look away. Kinda easy to spot in perifier vision if she's looking at you.
 

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Thanks Reborn. It sounds like I'm just going to have to be a little bit more aggressive to see where I stand. I got to be careful though because she might be being just friendly. Friendly + shy = false positive for IOI's if you aren't too careful.
 

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I opened up a shy girl today actually. Last class I playfully hit her arm and built rapport about a project. For today, we had class in the library, I told her to come sit next to me, and we built more rapport (she was pointing out the things we had in common, told me she speaks a foreign language). Blah blah, the lights are turned off, and halfway through it all she starts rubbing her leg on mine. Definately get her comfortable around you.
 

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I've been having a similar problem. If I don't have any further luck, I'm going to go with the full on assault by the end of the week as I've been trying to pvssy foot around to no evail.
 
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