"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Shy girls

The Bat

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How do you deal with shy/conservative girls? I'm familiar with the "be yourself and if you are a fun person she'll be attracted to you" mantra. But I'm asking in regards to measuring interest level. In your experience, do you take things very slowly but then again, define "slowly"?

I've got an artsy/conservative plate right now. She is all into painting and photography and at the same time she says she is a very devout religious person. My intentions with this plate is just to have fun as my intentions normally are with any plate I come across. However, this one is a bit shy, keeps-to-herself but definitely a friendly gal if you talk to her.

If anyone has had experience with this situation, please do share. Or just PM me the whole life story.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Bat

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Nothing? Or should I ask this in Mature section?
 

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DonGorgon said:
Girls are not shy they either like you or they dont.
This is bull ****.

Shy girls are easily intimidated by guys and you must get them to be comfortable with you before they open up.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Remember one shy girl I met who I had a date with. We talked for prob 2 hours and I couldnt get a clue on wheter she was interested or not. We went back to my place since it was close by and I saw it as an interest but still she was indifferant. Talked bout 15 min at my place and still same indifference.

Then I kissed her out of the blue and 10 min later we were in my bed with our clothes off.


If she's really shy then YOU need to check if she's interested or not by checking her boundries to you. She wont give you any signs of interest. Grab your sack and go for it. Most shy girls will prob eye you when you look away. Kinda easy to spot in perifier vision if she's looking at you.
 

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Thanks Reborn. It sounds like I'm just going to have to be a little bit more aggressive to see where I stand. I got to be careful though because she might be being just friendly. Friendly + shy = false positive for IOI's if you aren't too careful.
 

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I opened up a shy girl today actually. Last class I playfully hit her arm and built rapport about a project. For today, we had class in the library, I told her to come sit next to me, and we built more rapport (she was pointing out the things we had in common, told me she speaks a foreign language). Blah blah, the lights are turned off, and halfway through it all she starts rubbing her leg on mine. Definately get her comfortable around you.
 

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I've been having a similar problem. If I don't have any further luck, I'm going to go with the full on assault by the end of the week as I've been trying to pvssy foot around to no evail.
 
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