"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Shy girls...ATTRACT or RAPPORT first?

j8snx1

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Alright fella's here's the catch:
I read from the Mystery Method thing about the 3 crucial steps:

ATTRACTION------->RAPPORT------->SEDUCTION
This 3 step method is pure genius, since it generalizes the DJ methods in 3 simple words!

attraction: C&F, kino, positive attitude, social proof, etc.

rapport: conversations (fun, deep, related, meaningful, etc) and dates.

seduction: massages, inviting her over, foreplay, sex, watever.

So now that I sort of showed what the 3 step process is all about, I want to get to my question.

Shy girls! They are a pain in the neck sometimes, especially in the attraction stage. In my situations, shy girls sometimes don't go with the flow when I'm doing C&F and Kino (I use them lightly so I don't go overboard with these emotional rollercoasters). Some said I should build the RAPPORT first (in which I'm stepping a crucial stage called ATTRACTION) then ATTRACT. Others say I should use ATTRACT methods (putting myself at a risk, since the shygirl(s) might get offended by the attraction stuff), and if she doesn't like it, move on.

I am not quite sure which one to rely on, since there are pro's and con's for either methods. Therefore, I ask you DJ's....

When it comes to shy girls, which method should come first:

ATTRACTION: (C/F, kino, blah blah blah)

or

RAPPORT: (Convo's, get to know her better, relate thru convos, blah blah blah)

???
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Q-Pid

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Shy Girls = Emphasis on rapport, with limited attraction.
Party Girls = Emphasis on Attraction, little rapport.

Normal girls have a balanced(ish) mixture of each.
 

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Always attract first, yes you do have to build rapport with a shy girl but you should always lay down the ****y funny right away. As you get more involved let the rapport show in your ****y funny. Make jokes, tease her in ways that she feels are unique to her.
 

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Rapport. You have to make them feel comfortable around you and allow them to express themselves.
 

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kino is so important.

You need to be doing it on the first date. Tell her a story (rapport), as you are talking, touch her hand.

Hold her hand when your walking somewhere.

Touch her leg in the car, not in a sexual way just as your telling her a story sort of touch her leg quickly.

I do this alot, and it works.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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