"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Showing interest

Huffman

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krazyboy99 said:
CNF CAN AND WILL GET YOU FRIENDZONED if you don't show any interest! it has happened to me countless times.
What would be some good ways to explicitely show your interest?
Whilst not giving yourself away too much and not coming on too strong.

There are some threads about it, but please share your thoughts nonetheless.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm thinking of eventually using "you seem nice" in future cold approaches just before asking for dates, is that something part of the right line between neediness and interest?
 

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HandyAndy said:
Kino, eye contact
to be true andy, im sick of this advices. they are just not to the point and clear enough. many of u will see that any two confident persons even if they are of same sex and enjoy being with each other or a bro and a sis uses non-threatening kino and comfortable eye contact with each other. so, are we talking about just casual interest here or we are supposed to show sexual or romantic interest which is normally called flirting?

if it is flirting, its more of a little long eye locking, sly smile and threatening kinos. guys, just saying kino or eye contact isnt going to work if u want to take it to the next level. should we use flirting right from beginning? or flirting openers or just start a chat and quickly change into the flirting vibe?

i want some real detailed answers here...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My point exactly schttrj :)

Sexual/romantic interest of course. Spill the beans!
 

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Well, i know of kino and EC as showing genuine interest, im not too sure about sexual interest, maybe someone with experience can help you out some more
 

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Too much CnF is too much pushing and not enough pulling.
 

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HandyAndy said:
Well, i know of kino and EC as showing genuine interest, im not too sure about sexual interest, maybe someone with experience can help you out some more
appreciate ur honesty, man!

and i also know u have at least moderate experience, so tell me one thing should you ever start flirting instantly or too soon with a girl or just wait for her to actually first vibe with u and then go for it when u think enough trust and comfort is built?

huffman, the question to u, too!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well, somewhere in between :)
Basically the question boils down to between showing too much interest (too soon) and showing not enough interest (waiting too long).

My thoughts: the vibe is crucial to your success, but don't wait too long.
 

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According to various sources such as the DJ Bible and David D. The best way to show a girl you are interested is to tell a girl to give you her number or email. You have to be completely natural and say something like, "Hey, what's your number?" Do it when you are in a good conversation or ending one.

Doing it that way shows her that you are interested without you being a chump and actually telling her that you are interested in her.

What do you mean by "not giving yourself away too much?"
 
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