"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Should you leave a message the first time?

ted

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I am sick of calling a girl the first time and having to leave a message. They usually don't call back. I am much better talking to a person than a machine. From now on, I am going to ask when is a good time to call and call at that time. If they don't answer the first time, I'll call back at a similar time. If they still don't answer, I am throwing away the number. I now believe that they are qualifying you by your message. Remember that we are qualifying them, so don't leave a message. Any thoughts or opinions?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Skel

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ya, leave a message once. If they dont call back too bad for them
 

Sir Shags Alot

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Personally I never leave a message. Most phones have caller ids. I really don't care if a chick I just meet dosn't call back. Maybe I am lazy, I just think it is a waste of energy. If the girl is interested she will see you called and then call back. If I call a couple times and she never anwsered.....the number is in the trash. Not a fan of VM.
 

DankNuggs

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I don't leave a message the first time....(I hate the 'hey, its DN, i just met you on XXX at XXXX, hope your doing well...)
 

XANEUS

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First off, you should have done a search before posting this as I'm SURE it's been aswered at least 25 times before. But I have something new to add, so I'll reply.

Leave a message. So that next time you call she knows it's you. She will NOT call you back. No matter how interested she is, on a percentage basis, she will in all likelihood not call you back.

You're still going to have to call again... but at least then she'll be more likely to pick up... after all you ran good game on her when you first met her, right?

Once you get her on the phone, take your time, build comfort, but then be EXTREMELY persistent when you try to close her (see part 3 of my recent triple lay report).

For the above reasons I often now give girls my number when they give me theirs. Have faith in the game you've run, but realize that women are inherently flakey. Play the odds.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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