Should it be this f**king hard?

[SilverSonnet]

I tell myself over and over "Man, this shouldn't be this hard, we shouldn't need a website to attract women, surely?" But we do, and we're here.
Anyway, I was talking to these two women, I mean c'mon. One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.
The other one, she's ill 'cos of the weather making her hot and feverous etc.
I said, ah you'll be okay in abit. Her reply "err....no."
Wtf? How do you know? Why do women have to cause so much s**t, and try to get attention. It just makes me want to throw in the towel, and ignore these immature b**ches. Sick of them. Really, I am.

 

[WesCottII]

How about finding women that are RIGHT FOR YOU, instead of casting the net at immature girls.

 

[SilverSonnet]

That's just the thing. They're all immature little s**ts. I can't find one that doesn't want to play silly games and string me along. I know what I want, and by damn, I'll go for it. However, with them, it's a completely different story. They wanna mess about.
I just feel like saying to them: "You either fancy me or you dont. Either way, stop playing games with me, and let's f**king do something."

 

[Nighthawk]

Look at what other animals have to do in order to get the best mates - fighting, killing each other, etc. Welcome to the jungle.

Practical advice, the more successful and experienced you become with women the easier it gets.

 

[djmac]

it's not really that hard... do you follow the advice here or do you just read and do your own thing? PS how do you do kino on msn, and talking is the womans game. common now.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

I tell myself over and over "Man, this shouldn't be this hard, we shouldn't need a website to attract women, surely?" But we do, and we're here.
Anyway, I was talking to these two women, I mean c'mon. One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.
The other one, she's ill 'cos of the weather making her hot and feverous etc.
I said, ah you'll be okay in abit. Her reply "err....no."
Wtf? How do you know? Why do women have to cause so much s**t, and try to get attention. It just makes me want to throw in the towel, and ignore these immature b**ches. Sick of them. Really, I am.

As Wescott said, the more girls we interact with in the game, the more we'll tend to see the same patterns. Of how immature some are. So far, at times im like, "Why does this have to be so hard? Why do we have to deal with so much of this? Why can't it just be simple!" The game is suppose to be simple, its just conditioning caused us to overcomplicate it. We're pretty much uncomplicating it, which is ironic because it seems complicated.:crazy:

For those two girls, def don't be affected by their hard to get bullsh it. I would still talk to them as if u believe they're still into u(sounds more difficult, but i think overtime we don't let things affect us like that). IF they still act as if they're aloof or whatever. Let them go. They're not worth ur time. Ur time is worth for too many of the other girls ur gonna meet.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

it's not really that hard... do you follow the advice here or do you just read and do your own thing? PS how do you do kino on msn, and talking is the womans game. common now.

Even if u follow advice here, it can still be difficult. Plus u got take advice here with a grain of salt. Because quite a bit of people on here have no idea what they're talking about.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Girls who are b!tches, stuck up and just wanting attention all the times usually arent relationship material. But, they can make good ONS or fvck buddys.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

That's just the thing. They're all immature little s**ts. I can't find one that doesn't want to play silly games and string me along.

I think it's probably more about your attraction to these types of "immature little s**ts" than the possibility of every woman playing the same types of games.

I know what I want, and by damn, I'll go for it. However, with them, it's a completely different story. They wanna mess about.

I suggest fine tuning "what you want" because as WescottII said, you're casting a net that's catching things you say you don't want to fish for. Instead of using a net why not use a specific type of bait that attracts the type of game you want to catch.

 

[Interceptor]

Ben. you are still a young man. The time will come that you will not EVER 'sweat' any 'immature b*tches". You will have formed true grace, poise, and composure, and only share your time and resources with people who are truly worth it.l
If you are sweating trivial stuff, when you know youre under NO Obligation to..you are setting up a pattern of behavior ..stop this NOW.
Women will RARELY oopenly STATE what they are thinking about you or your future to gether in the early stages.

They will rarely LEAD an interaction.
In fact, the majority of women will only be inviting to a man who DOES the LEADING. And you must be confident and self assured about yourself and what you want. At All times.
No exceptions. This is non negotiable.

You cannot overcome anyone's insecurity with insecurity of your own. (there are instances where a woman may actually be more endeared to you when you show vulnerability, but that is another matter)

Indecisiveness is NOT SEXY. Always remember that.


All young men here MUST let go of ANY thought that male/female 'courtship/seduction' should be EASIER, and she should 'just tell me what she wants".
NO NO NO.
Women who are NOT Prostitutes will NOT make the interaction like a business transaction in which you skip the Primary part and go straight into 'sharing bodily fluids".(like in that movie with Russel Crowe)



They are usually collecting information about you and observing YOU.
This is why you never are to be overly concerned with what she is thinking about you. Especially when there is no evident mutual emotional investment.

YOU CANNOT CONTROL HER THOUGHTS OR BEHAVIOR...NOR CAN YOU CONTROL YOUR 'IMAGE' OF YOURSELF TO HER..SINCE YOU CANNOT CONTROL HER PERCEPTION FILTER. You werent there to teach her about men, or the kind of guy you are.You cant go back in time and rewrite any history she had. SHE is repsonsible for what SHE thinks, NOT YOU.
Get rid of any 'self image' controlling behavior, and stop being so self conscious with people.
It is THEIR repsonsibility to be mature, open minded, loving and respectful. and it is up to THEM to 'take' who you are positively or negatively.
You cannot control their perception filters.
So let go of any self imposed RESPONSIBILITY for their thoughts, opinions, or actions.


Because, again, as a young man, you have this feeling that you have all the time of the world ahead of you, which is an illusion.


In addition, if you are sweating the women, you have to investigate your relationships with men too.

The strong masculine, confident and mature man is comfortable with both masculine/femenine energies, be they negative or positive.

Women who OFFER YOU NOTHING are NOT to be involived in your life. No exceptions.
Women who OFFER YOU NOTHING shall not be thought of as VALUEABLE and SCARCE.
Women who offer you NOTHING....lare not to be PURSUED or SOUGHT AFTER FOR ANYTHING.

It is IRRATIONAL to willingly waste your time with women who WILL OFFER YOU NOTHING and somehow convince yourself that they will add to your life or give you love or affection or anything that only good, kind, caring, nurturing, mature and femenine women CAN

Do NOT mistake a FEMALE for a LADY.


And stay away from men who do not bring you up to a higher standard and enhance YOUR masculinity.

 

[Entropy4]

The only constant in all of your failed interactions is you.

Take some responsibility. These girls aren't playing games. They just don't want to talk to you. Accept it. Own it. Better yourself.

And stop whining...

 

[Jitterbug]

I'm playing Captain Obvious here but you're 14. There are no women in your age range. Of course there are only "immature little sh!ts". By whining about their behaviours on MSN, you're becoming one yourself.

Every guy has gone through that emo stage of whining about oh why life is so hard and it's impossible to find the right girl blah blah blah. Start building your bridge now and you'll get over it sooner than later.

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

I tell myself over and over "Man, this shouldn't be this hard, we shouldn't need a website to attract women, surely?" But we do, and we're here.
Anyway, I was talking to these two women, I mean c'mon. One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.
The other one, she's ill 'cos of the weather making her hot and feverous etc.
I said, ah you'll be okay in abit. Her reply "err....no."
Wtf? How do you know? Why do women have to cause so much s**t, and try to get attention. It just makes me want to throw in the towel, and ignore these immature b**ches. Sick of them. Really, I am.

its easy... lifes what you make it... check my thread out.

 

[ChrizZ]

I tell myself over and over "Man, this shouldn't be this hard, we shouldn't need a website to attract women, surely?" But we do, and we're here.
Anyway, I was talking to these two women, I mean c'mon. One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.
The other one, she's ill 'cos of the weather making her hot and feverous etc.
I said, ah you'll be okay in abit. Her reply "err....no."
Wtf? How do you know? Why do women have to cause so much s**t, and try to get attention. It just makes me want to throw in the towel, and ignore these immature b**ches. Sick of them. Really, I am.

That's why you have to play the numbers game.

The more women you know, the less likely it is to develop feelings for one let alone get upset.

 

[sky77]

you are having the same problem i used to have:

1. basically don't take women seriously when they make fun of you. EVER!!!!!

2. This shows you are insecure about whatever they made fun of you for in their eyes.

3. make fun of them back or tease them more but never get pissed off or defensive.

4. If you DO get defensive/pissed off... they will think you aren't in control of you emotions, and you will get cut.

try that.

 

[DonJuan11]

I just feel like saying to them: "You either fancy me or you dont. Either way, stop playing games with me, and let's f**king do something."

If a girl you didn't like told you that, what would you say?

 

[SinJester]

Interceptor never ceases to amaze me.

I'm playing Captain Obvious here but you're 14. There are no women in your age range. Of course there are only "immature little sh!ts". By whining about their behaviours on MSN, you're becoming one yourself

Averages don't apply to individuals there will probably me some girls who are more mature for the age. The problem isn't what girls are doing it's how you are reacting If you were indifferent to it then it wouldn't matter. The thing is that's how girls are, that's basically a part of femininity. They don't go out and take what they want like us, they are indrect, unsure and guided by feelings. You just have to accept and get used to it. Hell even enjoy it.

If a girl is being a b!tch don't waste your time on her. Call her out then move on. They aren't all like that. There are always a few variables in this. The type of girl she is, and the actions you take to bring out the response with that girl. Just change up those two things untill you get the results you want.

 

[Jitterbug]

Averages don't apply to individuals there will probably me some girls who are more mature for the age.

Like 1 out of 1 milllion 14 year old girls? Statistically insignificant, and who cares anyway. They're all kids still. It's time to play grab arses or other immature fun things, not having to worry about this DJ maturity "cr@p".

And get off the friggin' MSN. I think I told him before that it retards social skills of the young generations.

One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.

No it's not. It's a time-wasting tool designed for kids to send each other random meaningless messages and a playground for kiddie butchering of the English language. If you want to talk, meet someone face to face.

If a little girl sending you a stupid message on MSN bothers you this much, I'd hate to see it when you get a b!tch-slap. Like a real rejection when you finally gather your balls to ask one of them out, and the whole group of them laugh at you while one of their jock BFs kicks your arse.

I have a little cousin who's your age and acts exactly like you, and I'm telling him those very same things.

 

[SinJester]

1 out of 1 milllion 14 year old girls? Statistically insignificant, and who cares anyway. They're all kids still. It's time to play grab arses or other immature fun things, not having to worry about this DJ maturity "cr@p".

Jitterbug I'm 17 I do know mature 14 year olds. Girls usually mature faster that guys. I think you will find most 14 year old guys are less mature. Still even if they are less mature you are just going to have to accept it unless you want to wait untill your 30 and women actually start showing some maturity.

No it's not. It's a time-wasting tool designed for kids to send each other random meaningless messages and a playground for kiddie butchering of the English language. If you want to talk, meet someone face to face.

lol your sterotyping again. Not everyone tlks liek dis 0n msn. It's a problem if it's stopping you from seeing people face to face, but otherwise it's a good supplement. If all the girls are using it we don't we. It's a good way to really get to know people, and its great for rapport. How's it kill your social skills if you still go out a lot but go on MSN instead of watching TV?

You do have legitimate points you are just taking it to the extreme.

If a little girl sending you a stupid message on MSN bothers you this much, I'd hate to see it when you get a b!tch-slap. Like a real rejection when you finally gather your balls to ask one of them out, and the whole group of them laugh at you while one of their jock BFs kicks your arse.

I do agree with this one though haha.

 

[Señor Fingers]

Anyway, I was talking to these two women, I mean c'mon. One's telling me to shush on MSN...Does she realise it's a tool designed to TALK.

Maybe you were talking too much, or just not engaging her interest enough. People don't just react a certain way without a motive. Sure she may be an immature biatch, but there could be more to the story as well.

The other one, she's ill 'cos of the weather making her hot and feverous etc.

Why do you perceive this as a problem? I see it as an opportunity to be playful:

HER: This weather is making me hot and feverish.
YOU: Hmm, no one has ever referred to me as the weather before . You get brownie points for originality.

It's all about your attitude - it needs to be UNFAZEABLE! Don't take them, or yourself, so seriously because it just creates barriers for any potential attraction.