"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Should I txt her or leave it ?

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Planned date on Thursday night got this txt Wed morning

Tinder girl - " How's it going ? Just found out I'll have to stay back late tomorrow night. Won't get out until about 9:30pm. Any chance you're free Fri night ?

Me - " Hey that's fine. Friday night sounds good. Lets say 8pm same place "

I responded in the early afternoon. Heard nothing back from her and its nearly Thursday morning.
Should I txt her Friday and be like " we still on for tnite " or should I just delete her number ?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I dont like the feel of that..either she was testing to see how available you are and you failed or she is evaluating her options once she knows them all. Either way you can be assured you aren't at the top of her list which is not where You want to be. Its not the end of the world, but it could be the end of your chances depending on how far down you are.

I'd personally send a text tomorrow morning and say something like "Hey, hadn't heard back from you regarding tonight. Should I make other plans?"

If she is interested she will definitely tell you no...if she isnt it will be some BS excuse again or attempted guilt trip on you.

Either way I'd plan on a flake/excuse when you text but thats just my read..let us know how it turns out.
 

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Sounds like she's jerking you around, possibly waiting for better options. She asked you if you were free Friday night but didn't commit to anything so in her mind, she's not flaking.

I'd still text her on Friday morning but I'd anticipate more silence.
 
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Planned date on Thursday night got this txt Wed morning

Tinder girl - " How's it going ? Just found out I'll have to stay back late tomorrow night. Won't get out until about 9:30pm. Any chance you're free Fri night ?

Me - " Hey that's fine. Friday night sounds good. Lets say 8pm same place "

I responded in the early afternoon. Heard nothing back from her and its nearly Thursday morning.
Should I txt her Friday and be like " we still on for tnite " or should I just delete her number ?
When a girl counters with another date/time - you need to counter her counter or else it makes you seem over eager.

e.g.

her: " How's it going ? Just found out I'll have to stay back late tomorrow night. Won't get out until about 9:30pm. Any chance you're free Fri night ?
you: " That's too bad, i was looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night. I can't do Friday, but how does Monday night at 8 sound?"
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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UPDATE.

Txted her early arvo this Thursday.

me : " I hadn't heard back from you regarding tomorrow. Should I make other plans ? "

Tinder girl " Oh I'm sorry. Yeh Friday is good. Thanks for that :) "

So I guess we'll see what happens
 

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She sounds low interest none the less. This is sh1t behavior and she's already losing respect for you. Not to rain on your parade, but if this is a first date, i doubt this ends well for you.
 

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Not a fan of confirming dates but I read somewhere a good way to do it if you must .. a few hours before the date send her something like - "just letting you know I'll be 10 mins late, don't be tragically sad" .. she will either say ok or lie and say she can't make it anymore

In saying that I would prepare for a flake .. make back up plans with another girl if you can
 

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She sounds low interest none the less. This is sh1t behavior and she's already losing respect for you. Not to rain on your parade, but if this is a first date, i doubt this ends well for you.
Yes it is first date.Why would you think it will not end well ? Shes a solid 6.5. If she wasn't interested she wouldn't of sent me a msg first on Tinder. However who knows what goes through their hamster brains
 

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Because, girls that are interested don't behave this way. They don't reschedule last minute, and when they do, they don't leave you hanging for days without actually confirming (YOU had to reach out and confirm with her).

From my experience this is all sh1t behavior that stems from lukewarm interest. You are already in a hole .. if there's any signs of poor behavior on her part i would end the date and go no contact.

If she flakes
If she's late
If she acts distracted
If she is on her phone

etc. etc. etc.

This chick should be on her very last chance with you.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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UPDATE.

Txted her early arvo this Thursday.

me : " I hadn't heard back from you regarding tomorrow. Should I make other plans ? "

Tinder girl " Oh I'm sorry. Yeh Friday is good. Thanks for that :) "

So I guess we'll see what happens
You're lucky she responded.

Next time you wait till friday.

You should give her time to respond, without you following up.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

Don't put too much stock in the play by play. Perhaps she actually has class or work or some legit reason to reschedule. Always assume interest and realize other people have lives that do not revolve around you (yet).

She gave notice she couldn't make the original date & she gave you an unsolicited counter. I think @icantgetlaid has a good suggestion (for future reference) but it risks appearing contrived IMO.

I like the strategy of waiting until day of the date and texting as you are getting ready to leave that you got hung up & you'll be 5 or 10 minutes late...if she's headed over or already waiting she will let you know. If she doesn't respond, go anyway and see if she's there. It's possible she turned off her phone or left it in the car (unlikely but possible.)

If you get there & she isn't text her your location. I've known of people being in the same place but not seeing each other & both thinking the other flaked.

When you send the 10 minutes late message tell her to meet you at a specific place inside the venue or at the bar. This keeps things clear.

You can't expect excessively high interest prior to a first meet. Just proceed as per normal and don't lose frame by over communicating ahead of the date. Remain a bit mysterious. That creates anticipation...a good thing.

Hope you have a fun date.
 

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She sounds low interest none the less. This is sh1t behavior and she's already losing respect for you. Not to rain on your parade, but if this is a first date, i doubt this ends well for you.
UPDATE : Went on the date. Told her I was going to be 30 mins late . Had a good time , made her laugh and seemed like there was good chemistry. Said she had a good time and told me when walking to her car she wants to do it again. Made out with her - she went in for seconds , then said goodnight.

I kinda suck at txt game but IRL I know how to hold a conversation. Plus being 6ft and built doen't go astray
 

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Good to hear ... there were just a lot of suspect signs in the texting/communication though. Sounds like your in person game was able to prevail :up:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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