"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Should i try NLP?

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There is this girl a HB9 who gives me mixed signals all the time,but wont let me go all the way:( I really want to fuk her!But she plays mind signals like giving me strong eye contact,touching me a lot and all the sudden drops her interest:( She lets me massage her,touch her tits,kiss her neck etc. and then all the sudden stands up and says that enough:(

Im really considering to study Jeffries method of seduction,do u think it will pay off?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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There's some sense in what ross jeffries talks about - in that it's important to be a good conversationalist...but I wouldn't recommend trying to learn all these diiferent NLP patterns etc. It's just not necessary and will often work against you if you haven't completely mastered the delivery.
 

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In my experience NLP works best when it is openly received willingly. This isn't always the case when sarging women.

Just a hint...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ross jeffries is a loser, his system sucks ass and he can't squat worth a ****. Just a hint.
 

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Instead of living your life wondering / analyzing. As Nike says Just do it. The amount of type you waste wondering, you would be further ahead by field testing ideas.

People need to stop needing other people's acceptance to go out and do something. Your not in kindergarden anymore. You don't need your mother to hold your hand.

Try it, what do you have to lose. What are you going to gain by sitting here asking everybody's opinion about something that only you can answer. There are enough resources / reviews on the net about david D, ross jeffery, mystery method, do a little bit of research, decide if its up your alley, then try it out.

Your not going to pick up women sitting in front of your computer. You will learn more by getting out there and putting all these "theories" to the test. So get to it.
 

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IMO, Some of RJ's stuff is too explicit, it works on the assumption that women are dingbats. Anyway, give this one a shot. To seguay, tell her that you just went to 6 flags (amusement park in the states)

"Yeah do you like rollercoasters? I love them, at first you're a little nervous, as you get higher and higher and you you're afraid it might be too intense. Then BAM it happens, and you're going up and down up and down, totally out of control with no will of your own. And then when it's so intense, suddenly you're done. And then all you want to do it jump back on that thing and ride it again!"

This is a big part of NLPSS, using language that's loaded with sexual double-meanings.

If she's smart she'll say "that wasn't about rollercoasters, was it?" you can jus act coy, or bust on her for having a dirty mind. If she accepts what you just said as a normal conversation, you've just poisoned her mind with sexual thoughts.
 

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Originally posted by Lifeforce
Ross jeffries is a loser, his system sucks ass and he can't squat worth a ****. Just a hint.
and you know how?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by Dean
and you know how?
Read that **** alot of times and tried it out... =) I have never been more embarrased in my life...

Too much **** to think about, patterns, anchoring, EV, weasel phrases, boyfriend destroyers, etc... etc...

Try the tried and true way. Bulk up.
 

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what works for sum does not for others simple as,, cant discredit the hole thing because it didt worl for you
 

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It works, but it takes a lot of time, work, and practise to pull off. Bottom line: Trying to learn it now is not going to help you in this situation.

Honestly, what it sounds like is that you're just not good at turning a woman on (at least not this one). You need to find her buttons. Try doing a little research on erogenous zones and put your pride on time out.
 

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I'd say patterns can be effective but you have to be a master of the delivery..most importantly you must say it with CONFIDENCE and conviction. If you start mumbling a badly rehearsed pattern then you're in trouble.

Wthout a lot of practice it's just too much to think about and adds to the chance that you'll screw up. Remeber, you don't have anything to prove to her because you're a great guy and you know it.

Generally (and as I said before) it's just not worth the effort and is unnecessary anyway. You can get a woman without over-hyped psychology tricks, you are a don juan!.
 

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Thanks guys...im not gonna spend more time on this *****...its time to move.....im not saying im happy about descision,because she has a awesome body and i would love to fukk the **** out of her!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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the guys that are not getting results from speed seduction are
missing the boat completly.
Rick H, Orion and alot of other GURUS all USE NLP.
maybe not to seduce woman but to reprogram their own minds for success with woman.
anchoring,belief systems and the concepts they use are NLP
based. SS only works if you understand and know how to
apply the techniques correctly. it takes time and concentrated effort to learn about NLP and it's applications
and it's alot more work then fun. But the results speak
for themselves.
i for one have never tried using SS but am somewhat familiar with
NLP and i can see how it works.
you can't just throw out a bunch of mis-applied patterns haphazardly and expect it to work.

it exciting a response through language patterns.
and knowing how to apply them correctly is a huge part of it.

MM is alot easier to do and it builds experiance approaching-quick.
SS takes a little more effort & i think it's more for the
"seducer" types that actually enjoy "classic seduction".

personally i am willing to learn one pattern of SS and
using it just to see the results...
 
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