"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Should i try NLP?

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There is this girl a HB9 who gives me mixed signals all the time,but wont let me go all the way:( I really want to fuk her!But she plays mind signals like giving me strong eye contact,touching me a lot and all the sudden drops her interest:( She lets me massage her,touch her tits,kiss her neck etc. and then all the sudden stands up and says that enough:(

Im really considering to study Jeffries method of seduction,do u think it will pay off?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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There's some sense in what ross jeffries talks about - in that it's important to be a good conversationalist...but I wouldn't recommend trying to learn all these diiferent NLP patterns etc. It's just not necessary and will often work against you if you haven't completely mastered the delivery.
 

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In my experience NLP works best when it is openly received willingly. This isn't always the case when sarging women.

Just a hint...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ross jeffries is a loser, his system sucks ass and he can't squat worth a ****. Just a hint.
 

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Instead of living your life wondering / analyzing. As Nike says Just do it. The amount of type you waste wondering, you would be further ahead by field testing ideas.

People need to stop needing other people's acceptance to go out and do something. Your not in kindergarden anymore. You don't need your mother to hold your hand.

Try it, what do you have to lose. What are you going to gain by sitting here asking everybody's opinion about something that only you can answer. There are enough resources / reviews on the net about david D, ross jeffery, mystery method, do a little bit of research, decide if its up your alley, then try it out.

Your not going to pick up women sitting in front of your computer. You will learn more by getting out there and putting all these "theories" to the test. So get to it.
 

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IMO, Some of RJ's stuff is too explicit, it works on the assumption that women are dingbats. Anyway, give this one a shot. To seguay, tell her that you just went to 6 flags (amusement park in the states)

"Yeah do you like rollercoasters? I love them, at first you're a little nervous, as you get higher and higher and you you're afraid it might be too intense. Then BAM it happens, and you're going up and down up and down, totally out of control with no will of your own. And then when it's so intense, suddenly you're done. And then all you want to do it jump back on that thing and ride it again!"

This is a big part of NLPSS, using language that's loaded with sexual double-meanings.

If she's smart she'll say "that wasn't about rollercoasters, was it?" you can jus act coy, or bust on her for having a dirty mind. If she accepts what you just said as a normal conversation, you've just poisoned her mind with sexual thoughts.
 

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Originally posted by Lifeforce
Ross jeffries is a loser, his system sucks ass and he can't squat worth a ****. Just a hint.
and you know how?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Dean
and you know how?
Read that **** alot of times and tried it out... =) I have never been more embarrased in my life...

Too much **** to think about, patterns, anchoring, EV, weasel phrases, boyfriend destroyers, etc... etc...

Try the tried and true way. Bulk up.
 

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what works for sum does not for others simple as,, cant discredit the hole thing because it didt worl for you
 

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It works, but it takes a lot of time, work, and practise to pull off. Bottom line: Trying to learn it now is not going to help you in this situation.

Honestly, what it sounds like is that you're just not good at turning a woman on (at least not this one). You need to find her buttons. Try doing a little research on erogenous zones and put your pride on time out.
 

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I'd say patterns can be effective but you have to be a master of the delivery..most importantly you must say it with CONFIDENCE and conviction. If you start mumbling a badly rehearsed pattern then you're in trouble.

Wthout a lot of practice it's just too much to think about and adds to the chance that you'll screw up. Remeber, you don't have anything to prove to her because you're a great guy and you know it.

Generally (and as I said before) it's just not worth the effort and is unnecessary anyway. You can get a woman without over-hyped psychology tricks, you are a don juan!.
 

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Thanks guys...im not gonna spend more time on this *****...its time to move.....im not saying im happy about descision,because she has a awesome body and i would love to fukk the **** out of her!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the guys that are not getting results from speed seduction are
missing the boat completly.
Rick H, Orion and alot of other GURUS all USE NLP.
maybe not to seduce woman but to reprogram their own minds for success with woman.
anchoring,belief systems and the concepts they use are NLP
based. SS only works if you understand and know how to
apply the techniques correctly. it takes time and concentrated effort to learn about NLP and it's applications
and it's alot more work then fun. But the results speak
for themselves.
i for one have never tried using SS but am somewhat familiar with
NLP and i can see how it works.
you can't just throw out a bunch of mis-applied patterns haphazardly and expect it to work.

it exciting a response through language patterns.
and knowing how to apply them correctly is a huge part of it.

MM is alot easier to do and it builds experiance approaching-quick.
SS takes a little more effort & i think it's more for the
"seducer" types that actually enjoy "classic seduction".

personally i am willing to learn one pattern of SS and
using it just to see the results...
 
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