Should I text or call this really feminine chick

[Don_Jaime]

Hey guys merry xmas, today the most random thing happened to me.

So I messaged this really cute, really feminine chicka on myspace the other day. Thats it. I told her I thought she was really feminine and I thought that that was the biggest turn on. I told her the more feminine a woman is, the more masculine a man she needs. I asked her if she thinks thats true...

So she replies today on xmas and says:

lol i think its true too..my name is HB nice to meet u

I never replied, but a few hours later she sends me another message

hey im hardly ever on here so if u like u can txt me heres my number 909 888 8888

I am like, NICE! I didnt have to do **** for this number and this chick is the type of chick that I like...

Seeing how its XMas I was planning on texting her to say merry xmas and let the conversation flow from there, but I really dont like texting. Should I call her tonight and talk with her and if I like her then maybe set a date up.

I know this chick is gonna throw some **** tests out there to see how "masculine" I really am, which I am down for...cuz once I pass those I am gonna "stuff her stocking" haha

I believe pook said it gentlemen...Masculinity is KEY!

I have been working hard on myself, by working out, being more physical, and letting go of childish tendencies and feel I am progressing well every day...

Remember you guys who want a really feminine chick....Become more masculine...Work out, play physical sports, join the Army , take risks

I remember at basic training in our barracks we had a saying that was painted on the floor in latin...it translated..."Fortune Favors the Bold"

 

[Special T]

Have you dated her yet? Get back to us when she doesn't flake on you for the first three dates.

 

[Don_Jaime]

Have you dated her yet? Get back to us when she doesn't flake on you for the first three dates.

SPecial T, did you even read my post dude or what???

that was an insightful comment lol

 

[Ease]

The hard part isnt getting the number, the rest of it doesnt get any easier.

 

[Don_Jaime]

Ya I know yo, any ideas guys on what kinda **** tests she might throw at me? Honestly this chick is in the very beautiful range and I never really deal with these types...

 

[Igetit!]

Hey guys merry xmas, today the most random thing happened to me.

So I messaged this really cute, really feminine chicka on myspace the other day. Thats it. I told her I thought she was really feminine and I thought that that was the biggest turn on. I told her the more feminine a woman is, the more masculine a man she needs. I asked her if she thinks thats true...

So she replies today on xmas and says:

lol i think its true too..my name is HB nice to meet u

It's cool that she agrees with you,HOWEVER,you need to stop talking about (her) needing a masculine man,and just BE a masculine man.


If you continue talking about being masculine instead of just being it,it's friendzone city,because this conversation is LOGICAL.


This is a LOGICAL discussion about what you two think a woman wants/needs in a man.


So transition from the "subject" of being masculine to just doing it...WITHOUT telling her.


Just do it.

I never replied, but a few hours later she sends me another message

hey im hardly ever on here so if u like u can txt me heres my number 909 888 8888

I am like, NICE! I didnt have to do **** for this number and this chick is the type of chick that I like...

Seeing how its XMas I was planning on texting her to say merry xmas and let the conversation flow from there, but I really dont like texting. Should I call her tonight and talk with her and if I like her then maybe set a date up.

DO NOT CALL.


A text saying Merry Chrismas should be sufficent.


You need to escalate in this situation,build your way up.


A phonecall is more personal than a text message. A phonecall could be seen as too much too soon. You can move up to calling her within a few days,but right now she wouldn't be expecting it.


Think about it:If you gave a girl your number telling her to text you,but she called you instead,ESPECIALLY during Christmas when she's trying to spend time with her family,how would you feel?




I wouldn't want her calling me unless there was a decent amount of comfort built up first,and since you just got a text from her TODAY,there's not enough comfort built up yet for a personal phonecall,but a text should be cool.




Go ahead and text her,but don't get into some long,drawnout conversation.



There'll be plenty of time for you two to play the mating game,but Christmas is only once a year.


Text her if you want,but keep it short so she can get back to spending the holidays with her family.

 

[Brighty]

I know this chick is gonna throw some **** tests out there to see how "masculine" I really am, which I am down for...cuz once I pass those I am gonna "stuff her stocking" haha

I believe pook said it gentlemen...Masculinity is KEY!

I have been working hard on myself, by working out, being more physical, and letting go of childish tendencies and feel I am progressing well every day...

Remember you guys who want a really feminine chick....Become more masculine...Work out, play physical sports, join the Army , take risks

I remember at basic training in our barracks we had a saying that was painted on the floor in latin...it translated..."Fortune Favors the Bold"

Dude... all she did was text you her number... that's it. Do you even know this girl? Have you even made any contact with her that isn't through a keyboard? I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself here.

Anyway, good luck.

 

[Don_Jaime]

Dude... all she did was text you her number... that's it. Do you even know this girl? Have you even made any contact with her that isn't through a keyboard? I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself here.

Anyway, good luck.

No she didnt text it, through myspace. How am I getting ahead of myself?

 

[Don_Jaime]

It's cool that she agrees with you,HOWEVER,you need to stop talking about (her) needing a masculine man,and just BE a masculine man.


If you continue talking about being masculine instead of just being it,it's friendzone city,because this conversation is LOGICAL.


This is a LOGICAL discussion about what you two think a woman wants/needs in a man.


So transition from the "subject" of being masculine to just doing it...WITHOUT telling her.


Just do it.



DO NOT CALL.


A text saying Merry Chrismas should be sufficent.


You need to escalate in this situation,build your way up.


A phonecall is more personal than a text message. A phonecall could be seen as too much too soon. You can move up to calling her within a few days,but right now she wouldn't be expecting it.


Think about it:If you gave a girl your number telling her to text you,but she called you instead,ESPECIALLY during Christmas when she's trying to spend time with her family,how would you feel?




I wouldn't want her calling me unless there was a decent amount of comfort built up first,and since you just got a text from her TODAY,there's not enough comfort built up yet for a personal phonecall,but a text should be cool.




Go ahead and text her,but don't get into some long,drawnout conversation.



There'll be plenty of time for you two to play the mating game,but Christmas is only once a year.


Text her if you want,but keep it short so she can get back to spending the holidays with her family.

I like this advice...Thanks man

 

[Don_Jaime]

So I followed the advice and turned out really good. I played it cool and texted her merry xmas. she responded back really fast. We text a couple times nothing serious, but then I want her to send me a picture of her through our phones, so I told her take a picture of herself and send it to me. She says ok and says she wants one of me too. She sends me hers first and I must say she is a dime. I send her a picture and she says your cute!! Meanwhile behind the scenes, I get caught up with ****in this 21 year old housekeeper at my work who has a bubble butt...MMMM...I hang out with her for the first time and take her back to my place to smash....

While I am hanging out with my new maid, This other chick who the post is about is blowing up my phone with texts....after the picture ****, she sends me a text...tell me more about yourself..shes interested for sure...while I am pounding I get another text from her, "Hey", lol she doesnt hear from me till after I drop that bubble butt home cuz I had to work, otherwise I would have been ****ing ALL NIGHT lol. In conclusion, I am trying to keep it cool with this chick so I text her back, " we will talk later ok". She IMMEDIATELY responds ok. Basically this chick has really high interest level and I want to capatalize on it.

I am thinking I should give her a call later on today and build some rapport for like 10-15 minutes then casually invite her out to chill tomorrow. What you guys think?

 

[horaholic]

If her interest is high, I would say go for it. You might want to make her wait a day or so, to keep her on her toes, but I also believe in striking while the iron is hot. You made bold moves with her, so you want to stay congruent with that, so you can call her whenever the hell you want.

 

[Don_Jaime]

Ok guys here is an update on whats crackin....

So I give this girl a call and we hit it off and talk for about 5-10 minutes and then i ask her out...I tell her I have to go to the mall tomorrow to take some **** back and I told her to meet up with me at 2 pm. She says she is not sure yet. I tell her that I only accept yes or no answers. I brush it off and think to myself that I need to build a better connection with her first so I proceed to build some more rapport for another 30 minutes. I really hate to talk on the phone with new girls, but I guess it must be done. After talking with her and I am about to go...I tell her again to meet me at the mall tomorrow. She says "I dont think so". I am cool about it, "ok have a good night" and i hangup.

Now i found out this girl has some family issues that definitely affect her personality. Her mom cheated on her dad when she was 15 and as a result they got a divorce. Ok I am like ok my parents are divorced too so I wont hold that against her. It wasnt her fault. The big red flag I do not like is that she says she mostly only has guy friends. i know from a previous relationship that is mostly trouble...

Like ten minutes after i get off the phone with her, she texts me:

"Hey I dont think I can go tomorrow its just a long story on why. I'll explain later if you like but you seem nice I just wanna get to know you better first."

Nice? I am thinking like wtf...I obviously think she still had interest in me, but I decide to not text her back that night and think about things before I reply back...i really would not have lost sleep over not talking again, but next day i reply:

"mmm..Straight up, i really do not care why. I do not like people disrespecting my time. When I offer you a time to be with me you should jump on it cuz if not, someone else will. I am not nice, I am a man, and a king at that. You COULD b a queen BUT we will see how bad "you want to get to know me better"

I basically felt i needed to act like a man and not tolerate bull**** and DHV her by telling her I dont need her cuz what this cutie wont do,another on will. I read from disciple to be a king in theses "princesses" eyes and you have to be more dominant than them for them to bow to you...I did exactly that. Keep in mind she is really girly and feminine so she needs to be put in her place...She replies back like immediately after:

"Wow I dont even know what to say"

Sends another text five minutes later

"Well I am sorry I cant go today its my grammas b day and im not missing that so sorry."

I reply back like 3 hours later...

"I know you couldnt go today. But if you really want to connect with me then u know how to get a hold of me. your really pretty and all but I want a lady. I know i deserve the best because I am the best. Just keep getting to know me and you'll see I am a cool guy."

I didnt just write this **** to write it either...I am honestly starting to feel that I deserve the best because I am a great guy and have a lot of value to offer people and women. I am letting her know I want a lady not some hoe or hoodrat. She immediately replies:

"I am a lady and a very strong one. I deserve the best too but like it hurt me with what you told me eariler. I'm not going to lie it hurt a lot. But you do seem like a good guy and all and I will get to know you better."

She is starting to warm up to me and I like that. I liked that position I was in. I hurt her and stirred her emotions cuz I acted like a king among servants who usually probably kiss her ass. She knows now I am different and that I dont tolerate bull****.

I reply:

" I can tell you are strong, as I am too. When both people are strong willed usually that means alot of bumping heads, but always the make up sex is great lol"

She immediately replies back; "haha shut up lol" haha

Ka ching I am in like flint lol...So now My question is how should I play this... I mean I dont want to ask her out too soon again but of course I dont want to wait too long....Any advice would be great and any things I did wrong to help me out for the future would be great...peace

Don Jaime

 

[Igetit!]

I think you did fairly well,although there were a couple of things you SHOULD NOT have done.


I'd like to break it down for ya,but man it's 5am right now and I can barely keep my eyes open.



Hopefully one of the other members can chime in and help you out.


Either way,I'll take a look at it a little later after I get some zzzz's.


Later man.

 

[Don_Jaime]

sweet...thanks IGETIT, your help is great...get some rest though bro lol

 

[Ease]

I can tell you are strong, as I am too. When both people are strong willed usually that means alot of bumping heads

I lol'd.

She declined your date because she had low interest, keep that in mind.

Shes come up with a good excuse, so she still has enough interest, but dont too ahead of yourself she's still in the flaky region.

 

[Don_Jaime]

I know if she declined my date, her interest level wasnt high. that is truth. Actions are louder than words.

She seemed to have really high interest from the beginning. i mean she gave me her number really fast. she said she has a lot of guy friends so maybe that has something to do with it. she always answers my texts immediately though. Kinda confusing.

 

[CarlitosWay]

Damn you have some balls textin all that lol....That's probably something that would have came off better over the phone versus txt though IMO....

Think about it though she probably texts a whole =bunch especially if she has all these "guy friends" . I usuallykeep textin' to a bare minimum....and if I do it's something hilarious/smooth and I'm done. anyways hope things turn up quick for ya!

 

[Don_Jaime]

yeah but what makes a masculine man and a feminine woman?

That is a great question Cali. Through my eyes a masculine man who is dominant not just over women, but also men as well. A man who is able to lead as well as follow, if necessary. Is hardworking, loyal to his family, Does not take **** from anyone follows his purpose in life and pursues his goals as best he can. A man who is a go getter. We are the hunters, the warriors, the kings and great lovers.

A feminine woman to me is a woman who is submissive in nature, likes to please her man, really girly(im a sucker for those types lol), takes care of her children and loves them, and needs a man to help her make decisions. And Of course loves to take in a **** in her ***** and get wet lol.

Those are my opinions on what a masculine man and feminine woman are...Please anyone feel free to give your take on what you think they are...

 

[Exhumed]

I just think you went a lil overboard with the talk of dominance..."I am a man, and a king at that"...normal people don't say things like that with utmost seriousness, and you sounded a little frustrated with that text. Consciously or subconsciously she sees that you spent time writing that text, that you're attempting to project an image, that you care about her opinion of your image.

Remember, you're a busy man, you don't have the time or desire to write a long text defending your manhood, you know you're the sh*t and you could care less if one girl thinks you're "nice"

 

[Igetit!]

Alright,let's have a look at this...

Ok guys here is an update on whats crackin....

So I give this girl a call and we hit it off and talk for about 5-10 minutes and then i ask her out...I tell her I have to go to the mall tomorrow to take some **** back and I told her to meet up with me at 2 pm. She says she is not sure yet. I tell her that I only accept yes or no answers.

Her saying she wasn't sure yet just means she needs a bit more comfort with you. You seemed to pick up on that when you told yourself that you needed to build a better connection with her.


Good call man.


However,you telling her that you only take yes or no answers was a mistake.


Basically,you gave her an ultimatum...and ultimatums RARELY work.



Her response was predictable. If she has a choice between doing something she feels unsure about or just playing it safe,she'll go the safe route everytime.




I know you wanted to see her,but you want it to be voluntary on her part.


You want her to come see you because SHE WANTS TO,not because you have to pressure or bully her into it.

I brush it off and think to myself that I need to build a better connection with her first so I proceed to build some more rapport for another 30 minutes.

Like I said before,good call here.

The good thing here is that you ARE LEARNING.

If you get the girl,good,but if not,at least you'll take the knowledge you've aquired here and be able to use it with the next girl.

I really hate to talk on the phone with new girls, but I guess it must be done. After talking with her and I am about to go...I tell her again to meet me at the mall tomorrow. She says "I dont think so". I am cool about it, "ok have a good night" and i hangup.

You being "cool" to her telling you she wouldn't met you was a good move.

Now i found out this girl has some family issues that definitely affect her personality. Her mom cheated on her dad when she was 15 and as a result they got a divorce.

Uh oh. Umm,Don Jaime....you've never had a date with this girl,right?

Uhh,how do you know that her mother cheated on her father,them getting divorced,and such?


You shouldn't be talking about these types of things with this girl,at least not now.



You're trying to date this girl. "Date",as in have a sexual/romantic relationship.



You should be flirting,teasing,busting on her,asking her what she's going to be wearing FOR YOU when you two finally meet up,etc.



All those things are romantic/sexual.



You're talking to her about problems and issues. This is what "Dr. Phil" talks about. You better chill out on that type of talk,or else you KNOW where this thing is headed.

Like ten minutes after i get off the phone with her, she texts me:

"Hey I dont think I can go tomorrow its just a long story on why. I'll explain later if you like but you seem nice I just wanna get to know you better first."

The fact that she said she wants to get to know you better first means that the jury is still out ON YOU for her.


That's a GOOD thing.


It means you still have a chance to make her attracted to you,and she's still open to it...BUT that window IS CLOSING.

"mmm..Straight up, i really do not care why. I do not like people disrespecting my time. When I offer you a time to be with me you should jump on it cuz if not, someone else will. I am not nice, I am a man, and a king at that. You COULD b a queen BUT we will see how bad "you want to get to know me better"

I agree with CarlitosWay. I'm kinda shock you said that to her as well.


That statement was filled with both good and bad.


You telling her you don't like people disrespecting your time was GOOD,but you telling her she should "jump" when you offer her a chance to spend time with you was BAD.



And you telling her if she if she doesn't "jump" that someone else will was WORSE.

I basically felt i needed to act like a man and not tolerate bull**** and DHV her by telling her I dont need her cuz what this cutie wont do,another on will. I read from disciple to be a king in theses "princesses" eyes and you have to be more dominant than them for them to bow to you...I did exactly that.

You have the concept down,but your timing is off.

You're making the same mistake as before when I told you to STOP TALKING ABOUT being masculine,and just BE masculine.



Don't TELL HER that there are other women who can take her place.


DON'T SAY THAT. She's not stupid,she know she's isn't the only girl in the world.



Just BE masculine. STOP TELLING HER these masculine things about yourself.


Just let her see them ON HER OWN through your behavior.

...She replies back like immediately after:

"Wow I dont even know what to say"

I would have said the same thing.

Sends another text five minutes later

"Well I am sorry I cant go today its my grammas b day and im not missing that so sorry."

You should have just told her "OK",and that you'll talk to her later.

I reply back like 3 hours later...

"I know you couldnt go today. But if you really want to connect with me then u know how to get a hold of me. your really pretty and all but I want a lady. I know i deserve the best because I am the best. Just keep getting to know me and you'll see I am a cool guy."

You told her "you're the best" and you told her that she'll see you're a cool guy.


Too much "telling". I say SHUT UP.


Stop telling her you're the "best" and just BE it,STOP telling her you're "cool" and just BE it.



The way you're coming off is like,"I'm cool. I am. No really,I am. All you have to do is just hang around me. Just give me a chance,and you'll see I'm cool.

Ha,ha,...see? I told you I was cool".



It's like you're trying to convince her that you're cool.


You talk too much in the places where your ATTITUDE and DEMEANOR should be communicating instead of your MOUTH.

I didnt just write this **** to write it either...I am honestly starting to feel that I deserve the best because I am a great guy and have a lot of value to offer people and women. I am letting her know I want a lady not some hoe or hoodrat.

While this is good,she need to SEE THIS on her own instead of you SAYING IT to her.

She immediately replies:

"I am a lady and a very strong one. I deserve the best too but like it hurt me with what you told me eariler. I'm not going to lie it hurt a lot. But you do seem like a good guy and all and I will get to know you better."

She is starting to warm up to me

I think she's starting to warm up to you as well,but you don't want to BURN HER.


You need to work more on attraction and comfort,and STOP TRYING to push her into coming out to see you.

I reply:

" I can tell you are strong, as I am too. When both people are strong willed usually that means alot of bumping heads, but always the make up sex is great lol"

She immediately replies back; "haha shut up lol" haha

Make up sex,huh? Ok,I'll give you that one.

She seemed to get a chuckle out of it....BUT,you might want to take it easy on the "sex" talk.


You don't want her thinking that all you're after is sex.



And besides,sex with her is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION...at the moment.



If she's not comfortable enough to meet up and have a date with you,she's definately ain't having sex with you anytime soon.


You can be sexual with her,but the subject of sex itself shouldn't be discussed.

So now My question is how should I play this... I mean I dont want to ask her out too soon again but of course I dont want to wait too long...

Well for one,STOP PRESSURING HER to meet up with you.

STOP TALKING about serious issues such as parents fighting,getting divorced,etc.


Be fun,light-hearted,playful. Yeah,still be a MAN and refuse disrespect,but with as few words as possible.


Flirt with her,TELL HER you want to see her,TELL HER to make herslef "pretty" for YOU when you two do meet up.



Take a look at everything I've said here. It all is romantic/sexual/personal involving THE TWO OF YOU.




That's what you want on her mind...sexual/romantic thoughts about the TWO OF YOU...not parent's fighting,divorce,or other seroius issues.



I think you may be still ok,but PLEASE...STOP TELLING HER you're a MAN and just BE one.