"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Should I stop gaming this Freshman girl?

ElStud

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Well there's this Freshman girl, who is starting to show REAL signs of attraction to me and is has even started jokingly calling me her boyfriend and stuff. Now, I might do this but there's a problem, I'm a senior and I'm 18 and this girl is like 15 now. The number 1 reason I wouldn't do that sh*t is because I'm afraid if I DO and anyone finds out, my ass is going to get landed in jail. I constantly tell her she's too young, but despite that she's still interested. She's okay looking and honestly if she weren't a Freshman, I maybe would've hit it. But yeah man.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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shes just interested in you because you are a senior, ignore her and treat her like a friend, then the attraction will go away
 

MikeYikes122

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El Stud, this might be the best post you have ever made. I'm not trying to be a d!ck, and I'm sorry if I come off sounding like that, but you are actually demonstrating some game here and a decent amount of it at that.

Let me break down what is happening here.

You have social value over this chick because you are a senior and she is a freshman. That is the wonderful thing about high school, the upperclassmen - even the freaks and geeks - have instant social value because of their age. All the while, you are ignoring her and telling her she can't have you, which is just raising her IL even more for you. This is a classic demonstration of girls wanting what they can't have.

I'd imagine that you bringing up the age difference is helping your cause even more and only working to increase your social value.

What would I do if were you? I'd hook up with her, and I hope I don't sound like a complete perv for making that suggestion. Here's why. Tons of my friends in high school dated freshmen when we were seniors and nothing ever came of it, even though they were having sex. At the very least, just go out with her a little bit and get some experience with her before you head off to college. You can't get arrested or in trouble for making out with her I don't think.

You don't want to be that guy living on the dorm room floor who wouldn't know a pu$$y if one was put on his nose. Every guy on this message board who went to college I'm sure can identify a guy they knew who came into college as a freshman without ever having any sexual experience with girls.

At least think about it El Stud. I think it would really help you out if you got a little action and experienced some success - even if it is just making out. This girl wants your bones. Just invite her out to a party or for a date even and kiss close her. Shouldn't be hard, as it sounds like she is already hot to trot.
 

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MikeYikes122 said:
El Stud, this might be the best post you have ever made. I'm not trying to be a d!ck, and I'm sorry if I come off sounding like that, but you are actually demonstrating some game here and a decent amount of it at that.

Let me break down what is happening here.

You have social value over this chick because you are a senior and she is a freshman. That is the wonderful thing about high school, the upperclassmen - even the freaks and geeks - have instant social value because of their age. All the while, you are ignoring her and telling her she can't have you, which is just raising her IL even more for you. This is a classic demonstration of girls wanting what they can't have.

I'd imagine that you bringing up the age difference is helping your cause even more and only working to increase your social value.

What would I do if were you? I'd hook up with her, and I hope I don't sound like a complete perv for making that suggestion. Here's why. Tons of my friends in high school dated freshmen when we were seniors and nothing ever came of it, even though they were having sex. At the very least, just go out with her a little bit and get some experience with her before you head off to college. You can't get arrested or in trouble for making out with her I don't think.

You don't want to be that guy living on the dorm room floor who wouldn't know a pu$$y if one was put on his nose. Every guy on this message board who went to college I'm sure can identify a guy they knew who came into college as a freshman without ever having any sexual experience with girls.

At least think about it El Stud. I think it would really help you out if you got a little action and experienced some success - even if it is just making out. This girl wants your bones. Just invite her out to a party or for a date even and kiss close her. Shouldn't be hard, as it sounds like she is already hot to trot.
I agree 110%... oddly enough its the natural order of things. The younger girls are attracted to older guys, ESPECIALLY in high school... take advantage of your social proof and man up and go for it.
 

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ElStud said:
Well there's this Freshman girl, who is starting to show REAL signs of attraction to me and is has even started jokingly calling me her boyfriend and stuff. Now, I might do this but there's a problem, I'm a senior and I'm 18 and this girl is like 15 now. The number 1 reason I wouldn't do that sh*t is because I'm afraid if I DO and anyone finds out, my ass is going to get landed in jail. I constantly tell her she's too young, but despite that she's still interested. She's okay looking and honestly if she weren't a Freshman, I maybe would've hit it. But yeah man.
Yuck. There's plenty a fish in the sea.

Seniors who hook up with freshman either A) Don't have enough game to hook up with girls in their own grade or B) Are ****ing creeps

Don't do it man. Especially if you don't even think you're gonna bang her. Not worth the risk (even if you were going to, it isn't anyway...)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Best friends? NAY

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Supremo said:
Yuck. There's plenty a fish in the sea.

Seniors who hook up with freshman either A) Don't have enough game to hook up with girls in their own grade or B) Are ****ing creeps

Don't do it man. Especially if you don't even think you're gonna bang her. Not worth the risk (even if you were going to, it isn't anyway...)
Blah Blah Blah, I hear everyone say that so I'm going to repeat it here. Younger girls don't have the "high school guys are like so immature like OMG" attitude. They are much less of a pain in the ass. They will be less argumentative and be happier just being with you.

For legal check your state laws :up:.
 

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ElStud said:
Well there's this Freshman girl, who is starting to show REAL signs of attraction to me and is has even started jokingly calling me her boyfriend and stuff. Now, I might do this but there's a problem, I'm a senior and I'm 18 and this girl is like 15 now. The number 1 reason I wouldn't do that sh*t is because I'm afraid if I DO and anyone finds out, my ass is going to get landed in jail. I constantly tell her she's too young, but despite that she's still interested. She's okay looking and honestly if she weren't a Freshman, I maybe would've hit it. But yeah man.
LMFAO, the only thing you ever hit is you wall with ur nut every night.
 
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