"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Should I presume?

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I've met this girl IRL for the first time last night. We've chatted some on AIM and we were talking about going to Atlantic City this weekend, but she wanted us to meet first.

Well...after the night was over, she still (enthusiastically) wants to go there with me. The night ended with a nice series of kisses and I have a feeling it may have gone further, but she had to drive like an hour and a half to get home and then catch a flight to Altanta the next morning.

So anyway, I gotta reserve a hotel room. (we're gonna split the cost) I was looking on Best Western's website and they have rooms available, but they're all one king-size bed.

Sooo... :D

Should I go with that? Or do you think it would seem presumptuous? I also found some rooms in the area with two double beds which are like half the cost, but they're like econo-lodge or some ****...not sure if I really wanna crash somewhere semi-trashy with a girl in tow. I guess I could always offer to sleep on the floor if she gives me a hard time about it, but a king's big enough for both, even with a decent amount of space in between, and I think there's good potential for "more", although I can't be sure, it's not like she's hardcore slutty or anything.

BTW, this is just something I've wanted to do for a while...most of my friends don't like to go gambling because of money or other obligations. It's not like I'm doing this for her. :p
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Be a Man - Take a chance

Book a room with ONE BED!
Think of it this way: are you sleeping with her now? No.
If you book a room with one bed, do the chances of you having sex with her go up? Yes.
If she doesn't want to have sex with you in that one bed, have you lost anything you had before? No.

Therefore, the best thing that can happen is you have sex with her.
The worst thing that can happen is that you are in the exact same situation you are now. You are not having sex with her.

You have absolutely no chance of losing anything in the process. You can only gain. Be a man!
 

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In similar situations, I've used humor. You could briefly state the bed arrangement and then humorously address the creepiness issue by saying, "don't worry I won't hump you in your sleep." Maybe she'll joke IOI you back about how she's sooo disappointed.
Or you could get ****y with, "don't get all excited, I'm not gonna hump you in your sleep." But that might be a little too arrogant for her. You be the judge.

OR you could reframe it as YOU being worried about HER. Say something like, "Ok, we have to share a bed but you have to promise not to hump me in my sleep." Then, "I know how you are! You're a bad girl. We choir boys were taught to stay away from your type." I can see how, when ya'll actually bed down, some call back humor and misinterpretations could get some physical play fighting and then maybe sex going on.
 

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Let just see it like this....... you follow these guys advice... and you might end up sleeping on the floor!!! :D
 

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Hah I might've found a cheaper AND better place to stay...Atlantic City Hilton is $50 less.

I'll put in for double-beds...if we don't get it, oh well. :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Where's your sense of humor Cutiepie?
I love how women like to talk much mess on guys for trying to figure out how to deal with them. But women then can't properly articulate advice. Take "women just want you to be friends first." Sure they want to vibe with you, have fun with you, feel a connection, chase after you, and not feel like you're creepy fake player guy. But we all know that women aren't attracted to asexual platonic inhibited WEAK behaviour. So Cutiepie, you should stick to seeking validation from laughing at the pathetic attempts of dudes in clubs and from teasing your drooling guy friends. This forum is for learning, not for making Cutiepie feel good about herself.
 

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Originally posted by AlwaysExcel
Where's your sense of humor Cutiepie?
I love how women like to talk much mess on guys for trying to figure out how to deal with them. But women then can't properly articulate advice. Take "women just want you to be friends first." Sure they want to vibe with you, have fun with you, feel a connection, chase after you, and not feel like you're creepy fake player guy. But we all know that women aren't attracted to asexual platonic inhibited WEAK behaviour. So Cutiepie, you should stick to seeking validation from laughing at the pathetic attempts of dudes in clubs and from teasing your drooling guy friends. This forum is for learning, not for making Cutiepie feel good about herself.
Dude it's not a big deal. I've rented double-bed hotel rooms with girls before and ended up using only one of them. (and I mean REALLY using it :D )

Besides, girl aside, I'd rather stay in a REAL hotel for LESS...one with a casino. ;)
 

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Wait a sec...are you the same squirrels that was flaming me for my approaches? And you're now picking up girls online over AIM? Now that's funny.

/makes mental note: squirrels credibility regarding approaches--zero. :D
 

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Originally posted by affliction
Wait a sec...are you the same squirrels that was flaming me for my approaches? And you're now picking up girls online over AIM? Now that's funny.

/makes mental note: squirrels credibility regarding approaches--zero. :D
Hey...I just opened a profile on MySpace. SHE found ME. :D

AND I never would have been able to talk to girls like her IRL if I didn't practice on real-life girls and instead spent all my time working the Internet for chicks. That's the point I'm trying to get across.
 
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