"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I let this plate drop?

bigbird

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Been on three dates with a coworker.

the good:
- texted me back after every date saying she had fun
- enjoyable person to be around
- tells her family details about the dates
- escalation doesn't feel forced

the bad:
- had to reschedule the last date twice (dinner at my place)
- doesn't initiate any type of texting other than saying she had fun after dates

additional details:
- Night after the third date we were at party with coworkers (non-alcohol, watched olympics). She didn't say hi and moved away after I tried to sit next to her
- coworkers know we have been on dates
- were both in college
- didn't have time to buy condoms for the third date due to rescheduling but had heavy making out, groping, cloths off etc...

I think I'm doing to much work and normally if the girl has high interest she'll text me. It's been four days since we lost saw each other. Should I let her come to me, re initiate, or next?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Purefilth

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Next! you sat beside her and she moved off? Thats just downright insulting!
did she say anything about why she moved? Move on bro, if she does call, answer, see what happens. dating coworkers is always an iffy subject, it can make the work environment difficult. Put her in your friendzone (say something along the lines of ' i didnt really feel chemistry, but id like to be friends') play nice, but never forget women talk to each other this chick isnt worth your time but it may pay to play nice.
 

drellum

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Yeah, agree with Purefilth.

If I have to instigate all communications....I give up after 3 dates.
Unfortunately the ones that usually text me are the ones I'm not interested in

Life's a beach eh?

Also....after advice from this site, I tend to avoid getting involved with colleagues.....Unless i can manage to get them sacked :-D
 
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