"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Should I leave a message?

mecca411

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Two nights in a row I've been calling this girl I got a number from last weekend and both times I got the machine. I hung up both times and figured I'd just try again. I think it's a bit much to call 3 times and ust hang up. Should I try calling a 3rd time and just leave a message? Should I make a joke on the message and dare her to call me back? Or should I just say "Hey Lisa, met you at the bar last weekend, what are you up to tomorrow night...give me a shout back at 543-XXXX". Let me know what you think I should do. Thanks.

M.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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pdw

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Messages are bad. After you have been in a relationship a while they are OK. But, in the begining you need to talk to her yourself. Give her another call or two. If you still can't get her, toss the number.

I'm out
 

Kraken

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No messages if you haven't even spoken to her yet. Try calling at some different times, she may just never be home at certain times (i.e. work, etc.).
 

mecca411

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ok, should I try calling her again tonight? Tried her at 8:30 with no luck. How late can I call her? It's almost 9:30 now.

M
 

ManOMan

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most girls seem to give their #'s to hundreds of guys, then start screening their calls.

Leave her a message, if she doesnt respond, toss the #
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Rondavu

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Leave a message. Speak like Satan and talk about something soft and fluffy like kittens. At the end burp. 5 bucks sais she'll call you back. :D Sorry I couldn't resist. Back to the real advice men.
 

iqqi

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Originally posted by Rondavu
Leave a message. Speak like Satan and talk about something soft and fluffy like kittens. At the end burp.
hahahhahaah! good 1, good 1!

WTF. all you cats and your message no message bullsh!t. whether or not a cat left a message on my voicemail was never, and i'll repeat never fcuking ever the deciding factor on whether or not he had a chance.

:rolleyes:


oh, yeah, and go read the bible. :p
 

DJ_Dork

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just leave a message. If she CARES she will call you back. Do not plan on calling her (ever) until she calls you back. Don't play the "Call the person's cell" and not leave a message kinda thing. 1. girls like getting some power.. give it to her, nothing wrong with that. But if she's the type that never returns calls or never calls - don't get upset by it, just ignore her till she's the one calling.
 
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