"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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should i hang out with this girl that has a dude?

miniPIMPIN

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well ii started talking to this girl a few days ago over the phone and today i found out that she started a relationship yesterday. supposedly she wouldnt have gotten in it if she knew that i liked her and wanted to take her out. she said we could still hang out though as friends so i asked her if she would let anything happen if we did and she said no but seemed unsure.

should i hang out with her? or is this a bad idea and i should just wait it out untll they break up? i need your opinions on this
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Chaotixxx

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If shes showing signs then dont wait. Next week she might be feelin some other dude.
 

cobrajoe

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Chaotixxx said:
If shes showing signs then dont wait. Next week she might be feelin some other dude.
ditto

Go hang out with her, have fun, but if you do want a chance with her in the future, don't let yourself get stuck in the friend zone.

The biggest thing you gotta watch yourself for is not to get stuck on her. She's off dating someone else, so you should be looking elsewhere too. If you find yourself getting oneitis for a girl that's dating a different dude, cut back on her or just get the hell out.

It's a careful balance, but it can have it's benefits.
 
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