You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Same when I put up a fake one in Tennessee, but when I put up a better fake one in another state, I don't get hardly any emails anymore. Guys are different in different areas? The cities I placed them were comparable in size.Kerpal said:May as well make an account and see if any decent looking girls message you. It only takes a few minutes, and you don't have to put any work into it. I wouldn't waste time sending messages though. I made a fake profile with a good looking girl's picture and got over 100 emails in less than 2 days.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
co-signs a 100%, pof chicks are sloresGrimReapaLifeEnda said:You can get laid off POF...but there's a couple of things to know.
1. Don't put in too much effort. It is a quantity over quality thing. Friend requests actually do work.
2. Check the girls who viewed you but didn't say anything. They usually do think you're attractive but are waiting for you.
3. Get the digits fairly quick. As in, exchange a few messages without the mention of digits and then just ask her as if she said something that made u interested.
4. Show her you're different from the other online guys, ie create value. For me, being in my early 20's this was easy b/c most of the online guys my age don't have a steady job/own place/respect for women, etc.
5. If a girl wants to get laid off POF, she won't be hesitant to meet for a date...even at your house...and she'll be down to drink/smoke. Agree to whatever she wants to do, she's just trying to screen you b/c you're an "online guy"
Well said. You actually want to be more direct on POF than real-life so you don't waste time.. Ask for those dirty pics and gauge her response. If she sends them, she's down as long as you show her the right attention for the right amount of time (won't be too long..sometimes a few nights of texts/calls is all it takes). If she say's "not yet" she's also down, just doesn't want to feel like a hoe so just act as if nothing happened and proceed with the G. If she's genuinely offended, next her.Solomon said:co-signs a 100%, pof chicks are slores
If your smashing 6's and ups props but i use pof, to break out of slumps, these women are slores and typically are DTF the first date if you qualify them right
three things to remember
1. Their looking to upgrade with a BBD, she already has someone in the wings, their not looking for anything serious unless they know your a catch
2. she may say she wants "something serious" but looking for her back to get blown out
3. If she sends you a dirty pics right away and says she wants something serious disregard that, pay attention to her actions not words
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The main thing to realize about POF is that it's about catching a girl at the RIGHT TIME. Most girls succumb to online dating when they're in need, ie just broke up with someone, want to sleep w/ a guy none of their friends know, just moved and don't know anyone, etc. Once you catch a girl at this time, you just go through the motions and you should get her. But remember, she also is broadcasting she's available, so she'll have a million guys online also asking for her # and waiting to replace you. So if you get the chance, you have to keep your attention consistent for that time period. Also, a good strategy that works is contact the girls with new profiles...they just got on the site and are probably looking for something immediately. Also, they may be newer to online dating and not have as many defenses up.LuisGarcia10 said:The annoying thing about it is that at any minute, women can just decide to ignore you and that's it, that has even happened to me with a girl I met off there who i'd been out on 3 dates with, just ignored my text messages after flaking a couple times.
Prime example is a girl who'd agreed to a date earlier this week, IL seemed high, aksing me how my day was etc etc, you could tell she was interested. Then now she has ignored a message for 2 days, you can tell she's been online by the last online thingy, so basically someone she's more interested in has sent her a message so boom, you're ignored. I could be wrong, perhaps I'll get a reply soon but I'm not holding my breath.
If you can get around that side of things then it's fine, there's plenty of girls there but the ones worth dating aren't easy to meet up with, I will say that.
There are a lot of those. Unfortunately, they don't want to date guys like most of the men on this site.Szyzzlin said:I was hoping there would be girls there that are decent but are just sick of the club scene and wanna meet up. Apparently not the case...
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Jariel said:Another key is to get yourself in shape! I've not put any topless pics of myself on there, but the clothes I'm wearing show I've got a good build. You only have so much control over your natural features, but being in shape will increase your value tremendously in the dating world, and especially on a site like POF where you're trying to grab someone's attention.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.