"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Should I ever apologize to a girl?

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I feel kinda bad about it, but I feel like apologizing is a sign of weakness.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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Apologizing can show strength as well, as it means that you aren't controlled by your ego.

Also, only apologize if you KNOW you are in the wrong. If not, then never.
 
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If you've really been a **** apologizing on the spot is fine. Apologizing later is a bad idea because she would have snapped back into the emotions of the fight and just get mad at you again so it's a double fail.
 

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"What I did was against my values and principles and so as a man who wants to live forthrightly by those principles I hold deeply, I apologize to you."
 

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"What I did was against my values and principles and so as a man who wants to live forthrightly by those principles I hold deeply, I apologize to you."
Nice words but depends on your personal Style. I'd probably say I'm better than that and then make a quick apology saying why I was wrong.

Key is to make it quick and decisive and then let her do all the emoting.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"Sorry" is an action word to me. I personally don't use it and it doesn't mean anything to me if someone says it to me. Actions mean more to me than words, if someone is truly sorry, they'll show me through their actions.
 

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"Sorry" is an action word to me. I personally don't use it and it doesn't mean anything to me if someone says it to me. Actions mean more to me than words, if someone is truly sorry, they'll show me through their actions.
So they will repair the damages...
 

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Apologize only if you're legitimately in the wrong, if you don't feel wrong and you can't see the line of logic that leads you to be in the wrong don't apologize

At the same time be careful to remain self aware so that you don't piss people off all the time and play victim when they get mad
 

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Apologize for what? It takes politicians 50+ years to give a statement of 'regret' to a country they previously destroyed through war or politics.

You want to apologize to a 27 year old girl who has slept with 6'2 hockey players and is looking to use you for her own personal benefit?

Got to love those Disney movies. o_O
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Admit when you're wrong, otherwise it raises the NPD red flag.

Respect is not weakness, quite the opposite.
 

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"Sorry" is an action word to me. I personally don't use it and it doesn't mean anything to me if someone says it to me. Actions mean more to me than words, if someone is truly sorry, they'll show me through their actions.
Agree, and this is actually what I ended up doing. I gave her a little extra attention. Never did apologize.
 
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