Should I date only cougars?

[bigdave17]

But that’s not something that everyone has. That’s like stocks and bonds. Very volatile. You need to know what you’re doing and/or have some luck or otherwise you lose out big.

my job has nothing to do with luck. I'm very very good at what I do

my success is probably the following things

- I'm very smart (especially excellent with numbers, great memory, etc...)
- I push myself very hard to get better and better everyday
- I work my ass off
- I'm good looking (Helps a lot in sales)
- I am very personable


the one thing in my favor is that I live near Chicago so I was able to find a huge, great dealership to work at. You're not going to make my money selling cars at some dump that sells 100 cars a month. You need to be at a store that sells 500-900 cars a month

Lots of people who try selling cars burn out and fail miserably. You really have to have strong sales game to be good at it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You really have to have strong sales game to be good at it.

The emotional bluntness you have keeps you from experiencing rejection like other people. That's what makes you good at sales. I think that same bluntness also hurts you with women, though.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

my job has nothing to do with luck. I'm very very good at what I do

my success is probably the following things

- I'm very smart (especially excellent with numbers, great memory, etc...)
- I push myself very hard to get better and better everyday
- I work my ass off
- I'm good looking (Helps a lot in sales)
- I am very personable


the one thing in my favor is that I live near Chicago so I was able to find a huge, great dealership to work at. You're not going to make my money selling cars at some dump that sells 100 cars a month. You need to be at a store that sells 500-900 cars a month

Lots of people who try selling cars burn out and fail miserably. You really have to have strong sales game to be good at it.

Not knocking you dude, the guys on Wall Street work hard af too to the point where they need to take drugs to even function but again that’s just not something that everyone has, nor does everyone live near major cities. It’s still a volatile business as in you can’t slow down even for a second really unless your on vacation, and you mostly scrape in the crumbs of the real cash flow. The only times you get the big bucks is when you go to graduate school for becoming a lawyer or doctor or something like that. Then you start making money in your 30s. RIP life. I’ve looked too much into other professions and I know that you can’t make a good living into your 20s with something very stable anymore. They just don’t exist.

 

[bigdave17]

Not knocking you dude, the guys on Wall Street work hard af too to the point where they need to take drugs to even function but again that’s just not something that everyone has, nor does everyone live near major cities. It’s still a volatile business as in you can’t slow down even for a second really unless your on vacation, and you mostly scrape in the crumbs of the real cash flow. The only times you get the big bucks is when you go to graduate school for becoming a lawyer or doctor or something like that. Then you start making money in your 30s. RIP life.

the problem with being a doctor or lawyer is you don't make money until you're in your 30s and then you have 200K student loans

by the time that doctor is even going to be in a positive net worth (net worth meaning assets minus debt), he's going to be 40. By the time I'm 40, I will be worth around 1.5 million

I was able to make great money at a very young age with no student loans (I have a college degree but it's cheap school). That's incredibly rare and something I'm very very grateful for

 

[bigdave17]

The emotional bluntness you have keeps you from experiencing rejection like other people. That's what makes you good at sales. I think that same bluntness also hurts you with women, though.

what do you mean?

I am one of the best closers in the country but I still hear a "No" maybe 30% of the time. That's a fraction of the national average though, lol. Most people hear a no about 80% of the time because they are garbage.

The only people I really don't sell cars to are those who are not capable (terrible credit, their trade in payoff is a lot more than value of their car) or we don't have a car that fits their needs. Anybody who is capable of buying and we have a car that could possibly fit their needs, I close like 99%

 

[Bible_Belt]

If selling a lot of cars was so easy, anyone could do it, and it would not pay so well. How many of those buyers insult you, talk down to you, accuse you of trying to cheat them when you are not....and all of that goes right off of you, like water off a duck's back. You're just a less sensitive, less empathetic person. That's like a super power selling cars, but a super handicap with women.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

the problem with being a doctor or lawyer is you don't make money until you're in your 30s and then you have 200K student loans

by the time that doctor is even going to be in a positive net worth (net worth meaning assets minus debt), he's going to be 40. By the time I'm 40, I will be worth around 1.5 million

I was able to make great money at a very young age with no student loans (I have a college degree but it's cheap school). That's incredibly rare and something I'm very very grateful for

Well it really depends on what type of doctor you are. An orthopedic surgeon for example makes 350k starting, and it goes up to around 500k a year after several years.

 

[bigdave17]

If selling a lot of cars was so easy, anyone could do it, and it would not pay so well. How many of those buyers insult you, talk down to you, accuse you of trying to cheat them when you are not....and all of that goes right off of you, like water off a duck's back. You're just a less sensitive, less empathetic person. That's like a super power selling cars, but a super handicap with women.

maybe 2% of customers are ****bags... 98% are very nice. A big portion of my business is repeat and referral buyers nowadays and 100% of that is very nice and they all love me like you wouldn't believe.

Im very empathetic and sensitive. Who told you I wasn't?

 

[Bible_Belt]

maybe 2% of customers are ****bags... 98% are very nice.

People at my end of our fair state would reverse those numbers. You have a culture second only to NYC/NJ in its brashness. The last time I negotiated over a car with someone from Chicago, I told them to take their money and shove it, because they p!ssed me off. Call me sensitive.

 

[MrWood]

Im very empathetic and sensitive.

= emotional tampon
mby this is why you arent getting the pvssy

 

[sosousage]

= emotional tampon
mby this is why you arent getting the pvssy

im sure hes talking too much

 

[bigdave17]

People at my end of our fair state would reverse those numbers. You have a culture second only to NYC/NJ in its brashness. The last time I negotiated over a car with someone from Chicago, I told them to take their money and shove it, because they p!ssed me off. Call me sensitive.

you probably dealt with a ****head.

I don't even negotiate numbers until my customers feel like I'm their best friend (and in a genuine way, not in a smarmy way). I make the process extremely smooth, friendly, low pressure, etc... My clients are all very grateful that I make it such an easy process

My empathy helps me tremendously in my job. I can read my people and figure out how they're feeling and what I need to do and say to get the desired outcome.

My goal is to make everybody actually want to buy a car from me, not to force them to. It's a big difference - once people love you, love your car and love your dealership, they will want to actively buy the car from you...you're not trying to convince them anymore.

 

[greatsnake]

You don't need your own place as long as you have a car. If a woman is interested in you, she wouldn't mind having s3x in a car.

 

[MrWood]

until my customers feel like I'm their best friend

figure out how they're feeling

make everybody actually want to buy

bluepill as fvck

since you are good at it for work, this is what you do with women

I happen to be a hacker or "penetration tester", where I must think ouside the box and figure out how to find holes for desired result...
I also am highly critical of my customers, I must be... therefore I am very direct and blunt.

You can do one thing very well, sell a car.
I must know and do many disparate things, combine them very well and come up with a plan of attack on-the-fly

big mentality difference!

 

[sosousage]

bluepill as fvck

since you are good at it for work, this is what you do with women

I happen to be a hacker or "penetration tester", where I must think ouside the box and figure out how to find holes for desired result...
I also am highly critical of my customers, I must be... therefore I am very direct and blunt.

You can do one thing very well, sell a car.
I must know and do many disparate things, combine them very well and come up with a plan of attack on-the-fly

big mentality difference!

i cringe with how dave attacks my threads with "im very smart" "im in the 0,000001% of richest and most handsome men in usa" "I had house when i was 10" ETC, LOL.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I can read my people and figure out how they're feeling and what I need to do and say to get the desired outcome.

What percentage of your car sales are to women, and more specifically, single women? I am just curious.

 

[Alvafe]

i dont think its an excuse. why do you think girls in early 20s want older men? own place and financial stability is one of the main reasons

woman want a guy who have his sh!t together so she can suck from it, that is nothing new, that was always on, but also that means the only thing you can bring to her is your wallet, at your age if you can't share the dating bills you are being a sucker, here where I life is normal you or share a place with other 3-4 people, or life with family till you marry(and the shared thing only if you do college in another state and your parents pay for you)

but serious that wouldn't mean you can nail woman, you can always go to her place and go to a motel, I did get a woman once who she invited me to go to her house friday and I was busy till sunday then I go to her home get her go to a motel, **** her, spend something like 2 hours with her, bring her back her home, leave to my home take a bath and leave for another date, but sure I have my car(and the most basic model here cost around 40k) so as long you have something to show you are ok on the whole image thing, but you shouldn't waste time with woman like that, unless is just for the pump and dump thing.

I still keep the excuse thing because that is a nice way for you feel ok with yourself and don't improve your mind, what really is holding you back is your mind, less excuses you ahve more likely you will improve

@bigdave17
btw just stop, you really failed to sell yourself to us, so I think all you are saying is bull

 

[mrgoodstuff]

im sure hes talking too much

Trying to "win" her.

 

[MrWood]

MrWoods random tip #436:

dont sell yourself, be yourself

 

[bigdave17]

What percentage of your car sales are to women, and more specifically, single women? I am just curious.

hot single women in their 20s don't ever buy cars by themselves, they always have brother/boyfriend/father/family there

I sell cars to older single women or single women my age who are not cute. It always goes very smooth and many of them (probably vast majority of them) would date me if I asked them.

Dating is ridiculously hard for men in their 20s who want a woman in their league. If they're ok dating somebody way below their league (me dating an average looking chubby woman), obviously it's pretty easy