"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Should i date girls i'm not attracted to?

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I'm trying to get back into the dating scene after a breakup, should i date both girls i like and don't like just for experience, or only the girls i'm actually interested in?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If you don't like them because they seem to be narcissistic, cluster b, psychopathic or sadistic, I'd say don't date them just for the experience. Otherwise, if you're in a drought, sure. But I don't really see why you'd spend time with people you don't like. I find it's never worth the pvssy anyway.
 

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If you don't like them because they seem to be narcissistic, cluster b, psychopathic or sadistic, I'd say don't date them just for the experience. Otherwise, if you're in a drought, sure. But I don't really see why you'd spend time with people you don't like. I find it's never worth the pvssy anyway.
They're mostly from online dating, they're types i wouldn't really date long term you know
 

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Honestly, I personally wouldn't but it depends upon the set of circumstances you are in.

If it's been a while where you haven't dated and/or had little interaction with the opposite sex going out on casual dates with women you aren't all that attracted to could build up your confidence. From there you could easily build up momentum to meet other women that you'd actually want to date.

Now, as for actually pursuing a relationship or dating over a longer period of time with a person you aren't attracted to.....I'd say not to do that.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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They're mostly from online dating, they're types i wouldn't really date long term you know
Smash them at their place. Dont go out in public with chicks that are not very attractive. It's the quickest way to destroy your SMV.

Can you imagine your ex's best friend seeing you out with a chubby girl that was worse than your ex in physical appearance? Youd be the talk and your ex would be walking on air.

Now imagine your ex's best friend seeing you out with a smoking hot chick this weekend. Your SMV would be through the roof.

Do the math. Dont take chicks out in public that are not high value and attractive. At least on your level or higher.
 

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Smash them at their place. Dont go out in public with chicks that are not very attractive. It's the quickest way to destroy your SMV.

Can you imagine your ex's best friend seeing you out with a chubby girl that was worse than your ex in physical appearance? Youd be the talk and your ex would be walking on air.

Now imagine your ex's best friend seeing you out with a smoking hot chick this weekend. Your SMV would be through the roof.

Do the math. Dont take chicks out in public that are not high value and attractive. At least on your level or higher.
As always right on the money with advice, Glass! Also hilarious. I could picture both scenarios: the fatty and the hotty lmao.

I just friend zoned and next a fatty on OLD after 2 dates. We had the same spiritual faith which is cool and important to me but damn... she didn’t pass the attraction test. I know I couldn’t smash. I would have to be drunk af to get physical with that chick.

It’s funny I rather stay in a “dry” spell of no plates than smash fatties.
 

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As always right on the money with advice, Glass! Also hilarious. I could picture both scenarios: the fatty and the hotty lmao.

I just friend zoned and next a fatty on OLD after 2 dates. We had the same spiritual faith which is cool and important to me but damn... she didn’t pass the attraction test. I know I couldn’t smash. I would have to be drunk af to get physical with that chick.

It’s funny I rather stay in a “dry” spell of no plates than smash fatties.

Dont get me wrong, I dont smash fatties. Ever.

But if a very cute 7 is very adamant about hanging out at her place, I will end my dry spell (if I am having one for some reason, not likely) right there at her place.

I am just not taking her out for drinks and parading her all over town. That would be a BIG SMV killer.

You are better off finding a good female friend that is highly attractive to parade over town and let the other chicks see you out with her. Big SMV spike right there.

If you are an 8-8.5, you should only been seen in public with 8-8.5 women who are very attractive. Same if you're a 7.....try to get out with 8-8.5. The other women want to know what you have going on to pull someone above your pay grade. These chicks arent stupid.

If she is a 7, bubbly, cute and DTF? Go to her place and make her fall in love with you.
 

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I just friend zoned and next a fatty on OLD after 2 dates
This is a good one. If I have a chick that is all about me but just isnt cutting it in the looks dept to raise my SMV, I just tell her after a couple of dates that I realized I am not ready for a relationship right now. Normally I would swing that into a conversation that leads to "I am probably better off with something more casual right now since I am so busy" and see if she bites and spin her into a casual plate.

My 2 groups of women that I date/hang out with:

1.) Casual- a woman who is slightly under me appearance wise but still attractive. Definitely bangable. She comes over or better yet, I go over to her place and hang out.

2.) LTR canidates- very much bangable and at my level or higher in the looks department. This is a woman that I would take out on dates and screen for a LTR.

Thats it. The rest are not smashable so they dont matter.
 

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I'm trying to get back into the dating scene after a breakup, should i date both girls i like and don't like just for experience, or only the girls i'm actually interested in?
It depends on ur interpretation of "interested in".

Elaborate it 1st then I'll give you my honest opinion.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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General random dating can have benefits. If you particularly think you need to improve your social skills in a certain way, or if you just want a bit of company every now and then, sure go for it.

However, if you are wanting to improve your success with women that you are attracted to, dating women you're not attracted to won't help much. Despite what many will be willing to admit, men will behave differently around attractive women than they do with women they don't find attractive.

The only way to learn how to be successful with attractive women is to be with them, make the necessary mistakes, reflect and learn. This process can take longer than a few weeks or months, more often years. Most are not willing to put the work in, which results in this kind of settling.

With the greatest of respect, a lot of people in your position, men and women, will take the easy route as a knee-jerk reaction to being dumped. Long story short. Going out with anyone will feed your ego, satiate your loneliness/loss of your previous relationship, and pass the time. But it won't really do much to feed your potential.
 

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If i where you id just go and taste the flavor out there with an open mind.
Some of those women might surprise you.

Plz dont date those women with bunny ears in there profile pics.
 

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Keep the one´s your aren´t attracted to as female orbiters and bang the others.
 

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General random dating can have benefits. If you particularly think you need to improve your social skills in a certain way, or if you just want a bit of company every now and then, sure go for it.

However, if you are wanting to improve your success with women that you are attracted to, dating women you're not attracted to won't help much. Despite what many will be willing to admit, men will behave differently around attractive women than they do with women they don't find attractive.

The only way to learn how to be successful with attractive women is to be with them, make the necessary mistakes, reflect and learn. This process can take longer than a few weeks or months, more often years. Most are not willing to put the work in, which results in this kind of settling.

With the greatest of respect, a lot of people in your position, men and women, will take the easy route as a knee-jerk reaction to being dumped. Long story short. Going out with anyone will feed your ego, satiate your loneliness/loss of your previous relationship, and pass the time. But it won't really do much to feed your potential.
My stance on this is to NOT take women that you arent attracted to out on "dates".

You are lowering your SMV (she obviously is lower than you on looks) and you are spending money that you dont need to spend just to have interaction with a woman.

Remember, learning to be happy single and self improving is better than being with someone just for the sake of being with someone.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Just the girls you are interested in? Some part of your brain shuts off if you deal with someone you are not interested in so you are not even really processing the experience and if it's a gross mismatch then you'll just make a spectacle of yourself in public as a couple and you'll look as desperate.
 

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My stance on this is to NOT take women that you arent attracted to out on "dates".

You are lowering your SMV (she obviously is lower than you on looks) and you are spending money that you dont need to spend just to have interaction with a woman.

Remember, learning to be happy single and self improving is better than being with someone just for the sake of being with someone.
Agreed. Though I don't really go on 'dates' anymore, even with girls I am attracted to, at least not officially. Traditional 'dating' is becoming more antiquated with every year that passes. Like, I would never say to a girl, 'Let's go out on a date'. I say, 'Let's go out next week for a drink / I'm going to XYZ, join me'. Then escalate. With respect, thinking about it further, 'dating' one group and not another may be considered pedestalisation by some.

Regards exposure and SMV, well some people I enjoy their company, so don't really care what other people think. I suppose I am also fortunate to live in a huge city of 10million odd people, so I can go out in one town one night, then another town the next and maintain relative anonymity
 

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As long as she's slim and not wrinkly she's my type, I don't discriminate lol For LTR, she has to have the right personality but that's another topic.
 
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