"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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should i call her again?

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Hi guys, I have a problem, I met this girl on the train home from penn station. I decided to talk to her. we talked for the whole ride and at the end I asked for her number. she gave it. She did not ask me for my name nor did she give her name until I read it aloud after she wrote it above her number. Now, I don't want to leave out details that might help you come to an accurate answer. I accidentally left my phone on the train, called it later and she agreed to meet me later to get it. I thanked her, some small talk, and called her two days later. First call she was sleeping. I told her I would call later. Yes it was her #. 2ND call she didn't pick up. I left a message. she never called back. Should I call her again or write it off as a loss? Pleassssse help me. I'm 7 years out of the dating loop and I think I read her right. Do girls give there numbers out if they don't like you?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Nice Guy is Gone

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She was sleeping??

Did you call in the middle of the night or something?

And if she really was she wouldn't answered her phone or maybe she would I know I do if I hear it.

Regardless even if she was she answered it you should have just said what you wanted to say. Why hang up she's awake now so the damage is already done.

Mistake was to hang up and try again later so soon. Should of waited a couple of days then try again.

Should you next?

Up to you not us. Just don't put all your eggs all in one basket with this one or anyone for that matter.

In the mean time keep playin the field
 

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In her defence she works nights but yr right i should have stated my goals right there. thanks
 

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call her during the day man!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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