"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I be caring, or cold and distansed?

der_meister

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This maybe be a ``noob´´ dilemma, but anyway ;)

The problem:

I have never managed to keep a girl as my girlfriend (Im 25years old). I have dated and screwed, not many, but still a few (at least according to myself) considerably good-looking women.

But the constantly returning problem is that I NEVER manage to make them stay with me. The situation always slipps out of my hands, out of my control. The sequence of events has almost always been the same. After a short period of dating, she starts giving imbecill excuses (lies..) of why she cannot see me anymore. You know the usual yadda-yadda consisting of ´´I need my time etc´´. All those times, she has shortly afterwards started to meet (and sleep with) other guys. Ergo, I feel like a real bigtime-looser.

The problem partly, I have guessed, is beacause I always get TO EXCITED when I get a nice girl to sleep with me. I get overly-enthusiastic and, start to be wery varm and caring. Giving her many compliments, often holding her hand and try to be a reaaally nice guy overall. And maybe to much so considering the constant outcome.

So my question(s) is:
Is it better to be a little bit cold and unimpressed by her prescense? Is it better not to care so much about how she feels? Instead of being very present, upthight and caring, is it better to be casual and uncaring?
The thing maybe that a better method of pleasing women, is to not TRY and please them all the time? :confused:

regards der Meister
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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woods

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you have a lot of reading up to do. you're in the right place. Dont be her puppy dog, she can get one of those at the pound. You are being clingy and needy. The two biggest turnoffs there are. Women want there emotions stirred, not worshipped. You're better off picking a fight with them the next day, than being RREEEAALLLYYY nice. Try getting with a chick that you really dont like at all. Thats how you need to act to the ones you do, to a certain extent.
All I know, is that you have a LONG road ahead of you, so read and reread every thread in this forum. After that, keep forcing yourself to be a man and not a needy, cilngy wuss. Good luck to you.
 

bigjohnson

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Basically you gave her what said she wanted, only she doesn't really know what she wants. It's the reason relationships in the western world are so screwed up.

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