“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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should gurus be lined up and shot?

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Shiftkey said:
So true, but this knowledge only came to him after years of field testing.
Oh absolutely, he just didn't come up with his 'method.' What I liked about him was that he took in everything (he studied everyone). He didn't just come up with a "this is the be all and end all to picking up women." He was smart enough to study everything, try some things out in the field, enhance them and then came up with something very viable. He put forth the necessary time and effort to perfect his craft. He treats it as a science and not a parlor trick.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Guru's differ on technique all of the time. We just give the advice. It's up to you guys to decide what works best for you.
That's as good a take as any I've seen on this.

Whether or not Mystery's a "natural," I've seen pics of him, and if he couldn't get laid in a goth scene with his looks and style he'd have awfully bad game. I'd listen to an old, ugly-ass guru who gets lots of action, rather than someone who can make it on looks and style. Not to say he has nothing valid to say. But I'd want to throttle him if I paid $1000 just to watch him work gals in a bar.

Can't say I talk to gals (or anybody, for that matter) as I type. But I chuckle a hell of a lot more than laugh out loud at posts, that's for sure.
 

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Style (Neil Strauss) and Tyler Durden aren't the best looking guys and they've been successful with MM.
 

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Gurus make naturalistic observations and share iformation. Sometimes they see some kind of literature and test a hypothesis. Most seem to be aware and follow the work of others, and there is a great amount of carryover in what is taught. This information is then internally shared, tested, etc and eventually becomes public. Additionally, millions of men in the world do the same and sometimes publish their findings or give info to other people who publish their ideas.

All of this is extremely subject to a huge number of biases. However, the beauty is a healthy dose of skeptisism is bound to be present in the masses. The gurus who give total crap advise will likely be eventually washed out. Take Ross Jefferies for exampple who now only comes up as the butt-end of jokes at this point.

Many of the ideas I got from Deagnelo, Mystery, Swinggcat, Shark, TD, etc. were very good. The beautiful thing is you can test their ideas for yourself, see if you're able to replicate positive results other's have seen, and make adjustments as needed. You are not forced to use anything.
 

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Shiftkey said:
Style (Neil Strauss) and Tyler Durden aren't the best looking guys and they've been successful with MM.
This should be linked to the "Looks is the most important thing" thread.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Actually, the thread said looks are EVERYTHING. :rolleyes:

Like everywomanshero said, there are plenty of opportunities to "sample the goods" before deciding if something might be worth the money for you.
 

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Bonhomme said:
Actually, the thread said looks are EVERYTHING. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the correction. I've been trying not to pay too much attention to it.
 

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I never intend to. Thing is....alot of people in the world are stupid....yes stupid....alot of more money than sense.

Not quite Tomatoes. Stupid No, Lazy YES YES YES!!! Alot of people are just to lazy or have a million excuses why they can't do it themselves. Think about it this way:

There are millions of students worldwide that are attending university for thousands of dollars for what they can get at the library for free! Depends on how you want to look at it really. Are you a do it yourself'er or are you a guy who pays others to read the material and teach you? Personally I'd rather goto the library but thats just me.

That said do you watch adventures on TV or live them in real life? How many people are out exploring the universe as opposed to those who are exploring the Discovery channel. :)
Just because people want CONVENIENCE doesn't make them stupid. It actually tells me that their smarter than some people on this forum.

Mostly because your taking advice from guys who aren't tested and who probably aren't even successful. KBJ comes to mind.

The good thing is though, even if people buy the materials, only the people that want to succeed will succeed.
 

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Just because people want CONVENIENCE doesn't make them stupid. It actually tells me that their smarter than some people on this forum.

Mostly because your taking advice from guys who aren't tested and who probably aren't even successful. KBJ comes to mind.

The good thing is though, even if people buy the materials, only the people that want to succeed will succeed.

Doesn't your third sentence contradict your first sentence?

The people who want to succeed aren't the ones who take the convenient way out.

Guru's are self-proclaimed for the most part. What kind of qualifications does it actually take to be a guru? I know a ton of great looking girls right now and club managers, if I wanted to I could just pay them off to pretend I was running a spontaneous workshop. At thousands of dollars a head I could make a killing bull5hiting people. Unfortunately I have morals.

Sometimes in life things are best learned through experience, picking up girls is one of those things. No guru can substitute for experience, but pickup forums can provide feedback and suggestions for experiences.
 
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