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If a chick says she'll see you but flakes, do you make no mention of it or smoothly call her on the BS?
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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I don't know about the 'likes me a lot' part.DonGorgon said:Only If You Already Fed And She Likes You Alot!!!
AlmostThere! said:I don't know about the 'likes me a lot' part.
But under most circumstances, silence is better than pointing out her dumb sh*t?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
what is your attitude to them when they contact you?AAAgent said:I never mention any of that crap if they're not my girlfriend. To me there's no point in wasting time talking to someone that's not important. I just don't contact them anymore. They do contact me later though.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
No mention of it.AlmostThere! said:If a chick says she'll see you but flakes, do you make no mention of it or smoothly call her on the BS?
If only he wrote a book on attraction.Da Realist said:According to Machiavelli either you remain silent or completely crush a person. I say use either at your discretion. Sometimes just giving someone the cold shoulder will do more than saying a word.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
AlmostThere! said:...call her on the BS?
"hey babe, my time is very valuable and I don't like anyone wasting it. There are many people out there who are dependable and won't do that".ThatMysteriousGuy said:No mention of it.
If you're going to bust a woman on BS, it needs to be done at the time the BS is happening and it should usually be done in person. Busting her on the phone just gives her the option to hang up or make up a reason she has to end the conversation. She holds the power. Also, if it's not done at the time the problem is happening, busting her has no real effect. In fact, she'll deny she did anything wrong and turn a fact into a debate. She needs to be busted when she's in the emotional/behavior state that is the problem. And, by bringing it up later she'll assume you've been constantly bothered by it since the time of the flake, which is not good. She's actually not lying from her own viewpoint. It's not that they are inherently evil, it's just she usually doesn't know her own motivations, she just "flaked" because of emotional feeling at the time, there's nothing *she* can do about it, and it is what happened, that's all.
It's far different from men. If I acted like an ass the night before and someone the next day tells me to stop being a ****, and they're right, I'll understand and try not to do it again. Women don't work that way. Telling them what not to do regarding an event that is in the past gets the opposite reaction no matter what she says when you tell her.
But, you CAN do something a bit like "preventative maintenance" the next time. If she indicates that she wants to try to get together sometime you can matter-of-fact say a statement like "hey babe, my time is very valuable and I don't like anyone wasting it. There are many people out there who are dependable and won't do that". That's "sort of" busting her for the last time but you haven't been dwelling on it. You were only reminded because she mentioned going out again, otherwise, it's not even on your mind, she's just in danger of being put in your mental "not a dependable person" file. If her IL is relatively high, she will not want to end up there.
That's a statement that makes the points clear and yet isn't something that can be turned around in any way. There's nothing to debate or discuss. And, it's a clear, calm warning/message wrapped in woomanese that if she keeps it up you'll be choosing other options for women.
giorgio said:what is your attitude to them when they contact you?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.