"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Should a guy pay on the first date? (Poll)

Should a guy pay for the first date?

  • yes

    Votes: 43 55.8%
  • no

    Votes: 34 44.2%

  • Total voters
    77

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Crank_It_Up

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Originally posted by Maxtro
I think I read about it here or at Fast Seduction and also in several seduction eBooks I've read.

Spending a lot of money on her is not going to get her to sleep with you. It may even have the opposite effect and she might hold off on sex because she sees you as a long term guy.
the question was not a lot of money but just the first date, to which you said you shouldn't even have a date until after you've had sex

I wanna know where did you get the idea you should have sex before you even ask her out?
 

Maxtro

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By all means ask her out, but not for the traditional formal dates like dinner plus a movie where you pay for everything. Those should be saved for girls that you are already sleeping with and only have those dates on occasion.

For the girls you haven't had sex with yet. Go out for lunch; get together for drinks or coffee. Do action dates like miniature golf or bowling, I'm not sure about paying for those though.

Just to make myself clear; buying her a fancy dinner and taking her to a movie is a no no. It will not get you sex and may even cause her to hold off on sex because she will now see you as a provider. The kind of guy she would marry.
 

Crank_It_Up

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ok, now I see what you're saying, dates are ok before sex, just not expensive dates. That makes a lot more sense than not asking for any date before sex.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I_Only_Live_Once

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yeah I think so
 

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I normally pay when I go on dates. However I do it in a very natural way. If you are in control and take the lead, paying will seem very natural and she won't feel like you are "buying her time".

When I invite girls on dates, I usually just tell them when and where to meet me. When they ask what we are going to do, I tell them "We'll see". Then I normally take them on action-dates. It would feel totally wrong if I should expect her to pay for herself when she hasn't even "agreed" on doing that thing. I do stuff I like and have fun with, and I take them with me. Paying for them is a given in my opinion.

After the "action-date" I usually take them to a cafè or bar. Here i let her pay for herself. I sometimes offer to pay, but most of the time they insist on paying for themselves...

It's all situation-dependant. My general rule is, If i invite her, I pay. If we decide to do something together, we both pay.
 

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do not waste your energy trying to argue on this topic lol
it varies. do what you want and what works for you.

but remember, if your game is tight enough, you can even get her to pay
 

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Originally posted by Maxtro
I heard that if you invite a girl out to drinks or coffee, you should offer to pay. As for a real eveing date the guy should pay. But, you shouldn't be going on dates untill after you've had sex with her.
I concur. Drinks and everything are okay but unless there's some physical connection from the get go then there's no way I'm dropping change.

I think my old room mate's pimp of an uncle told us this and we've stuck to it ever since. Seems kind of stiff and un reasonable but everybody needs tules to live by.
 
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