"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She's calling me tomorrow.... advice

FreeStyleZ

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For those who want a long background... go here.http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45056
For the short background... its a girl that I might on a dating website that I figured I may as well talk to online when im bored and online anyway. Ive been talking to her and everything seems to be going pretty good.. im building good rapport, getting good responses, and she seems interested. I gave her my # and name in our first conversation and she said when she got off restriction from her parents and could use the phone she'd call me. After like the 4th conversation she still has the right number and my name and said her parents have gave her permission to use the phone again and she will call me tomorrow.

I know that basically i need to be C+F and build rapport.. but also i normally want to be on the phone just to set up the date. Her parents have not let her off that part of her restriction yet so I wont be able to just be on the phone for that purpose. I told her though that im more into getting to know her in person but i dont mind talking to her on the phone for a bit until we can go out. So im wondering how would you guys navigate through this conversation, just a bunch of neg hits? Have a normal conversation then after a while like 10mins make up an excuse to go and say it was nice talking to her? We've talked about alot of stuff and sexual things online so alot of its already been talked about... I made sure also to not be the typical nice guy AFC and agree with everything she said. I did neg hits and made my opinion known on quite a few things such as her buddy icon which was of a rapper who i thought was garbage. I asked her "U know that he cant rap right?" and she said "well i just like him cuz he's sexy" and then like 10mins later she changes the icon to something else. For all i know though, she could just be faking restriction and putting me through tests... which i seem to be passing. First online talk, then phone conversation.. and maybe after a convo she'll be off "restriction" and we can go out. Who knows.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Only convo you should have on the phone is how both of you are going to hook up in person-- period. If she says no then hang up!
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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Why don't you just get her number?


You're putting the ball in her court right away.... hoping she will call you.

If you had her number, you could tell her that once she is off...ehh...errr..."restriction" (what is this elementary school?) you'll give her a call.

You can't neg hit over the phone. It doesn't work. Plus neg hits are for girls who are high up on their own pedestals. Not for girls you are already friendly with.

Too many people confuse neg hits with being generally C&F.

The Bad Ass Canadian
 

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She isn't allowed to use the phone???? Are you guys like 12 years old???

Sounds more like a flake...I wouldn't waste alot of time on it..
 

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Well im 18.. .she's 17. I made fun of her about this whole thing with her being in trouble with her parents. But apparently she went ou one night, got wasted and had an argument with her mom. I dunno, could be a flake but its ok, i got alot of other numbers at the moment so i wont hesitate to next.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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