Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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She wants it, Im leaning towards NO

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So, there was my oneitis who i actually wrote quite a few post about who ended up going with a friend of mine. This happened about mid summer and it still really gets to me. I saw her Friday and she still comes to me as if every thing is resolved and forgotten. I dont know if I am the one who gave her this impression, cause i've been avoiding her and kinda cut her off. So anyway, Friday i was prompted to send her a message. Im not gonna post that, but this is her response.

Her: I appreciate your honesty, no love lost on this end, but im glad you told me because I owe you an apology. Im truly sorry I failed to tell you that I was feeling Richard, I should have told form a long time ago, but I didnt. Now look what probs I created so IM SO SORRY AND I HOPE IN TIME THE LORD GIVES YOU THE STRENGTH TO FORGIVE ME AND BUILD THAT STRONG FRIENDSHIP RELATIONSHIP WE ONCE HAD. i DONT WANT TO LOSS YOU AS A FREN. OK
SOOOOO... CHURCH WE TALK OK

The fact of the matter is, I still wanna remain in contact, but if the result is that all I can ever be is friend and nothing more, i think i should just end this. Im tired of being the "friend." Then in addition to that, i've found out that girls tell you stuff like that to make themselves feel less guilty about hurting you. If im just getting token comfort or in a position where I'll always be seen as the guy who "likes me but knows I like this other guy," then screw it all to hell. Im tired of being second place, i've done it long enough so goodbye.What do you guys think?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Agreed. You have nothing to gain by being friends. Assuming this was a strong case of the one-its, all you're going to do is regress.

However, there is a case for asking her about the possibilities of you two going out now. I'm a bit unclear on the facts here btw, is she and your friend still a couple?
 

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You acted like a wuss and you ended up on the friend zone . Close this chapter.

There's no way back of the friends zone . After getting some other girls , youll totally blame yourself for giving her a time of the day . You dont need b1tches that go for your friends . And you dont need friends who get your b1tches .

But if you really want her , CUT THE CONTACT with her , go get another chicks , have fun and completely forget about her . Than you can reinitiate contact in total different frame and get the b1tch .

But i wouldnt recommand you to even think about her again .

Good luck .
 

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You shouldn't of sent her any message.

A woman gets the best message she can ever receive by hearing the sounds of silence from you.

As any reaction/response you give will be interpreted as you being emotional over her in her mind because women love to think they are loved and cared for by people whether they are loved or hated they eat that sort of emotional reaction right up.

The only way to get back at some slvt legally who has crossed you is to not give her any reaction whatsoever and to cut her out of your life entirely and not talk to her if she tries to make any contact with you.

If you are out in public and she sees you and tries to talk to you walk on by as though she doesn't exist.

If she calls you and you hear her voice on the other end of the phone hang the phone up and its even better if you have one of those phone systems that tells you who is calling before you even pick up so you can let it ring and not answer.

Yeah though any explaining your feelings to a woman of why you no longer communicate with her will just be interpreted as a win by her as she will process this to mean you are emotionally effected by her and hence she is worthwhile and she gets validation.

Always maintain complete silence and no contact with a woman like this, it drives them nuts and gets back at them for being scum like nothing else because they thrive on drama and emotions and emotional highs.

Don't give that to them.

Remember all that I have said for the future should this situation arise again.

And no being friends with the guy that stole her from you or being friends with this girl.

Cut them both out of your life forever.

I understand that you are a Christian and hence forgiveness is important to you well understand that it is possible to forgive someone and still not want anything more to do with them so forgive them both for what they have done to you if you have to for your religion's sake but keep them both out of your life.

They have nothing positive to offer to it except a reminder of their betrayel.

Also remember that in god's mind the truly repentent are only those who stop committing sins or try to very hard.

So if someone asks for god's forgiveness for murdering people but keeps on murdering people they actually aren't sincere are they and likely of going to heaven?

Hell no they aren't.

Its the same for this girl or your friend asking for your forgiveness.

If they keep fvcking eachother and ask for your forgiveness they aren't exactly repentent for what they've done are they?

Hell no.

So in my mind you don't even need to forgive either of them if they stay together but hey you can if you want to.

Each Christian denomination has its own spin on the Bible and when to forgive and when not to forgive.

I just gave you my own from when I used to be a Christian.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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As usual The wise one, Kontroller, tells you exactly how to deal with this situation.
 

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Lil Magic said:
... i've found out that girls tell you stuff like that to make themselves feel less guilty about hurting you. If im just getting token comfort or in a position where I'll always be seen as the guy who "likes me but knows I like this other guy," then screw it all to hell. Im tired of being second place, i've done it long enough so goodbye.What do you guys think?

I think you are learning a lot. Well done.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You shouldn't of sent her any message.

A woman gets the best message she can ever receive by hearing the sounds of silence from you.

As any reaction/response you give will be interpreted as you being emotional over her in her mind because women love to think they are loved and cared for by people whether they are loved or hated they eat that sort of emotional reaction right up.

The only way to get back at some slvt legally who has crossed you is to not give her any reaction whatsoever and to cut her out of your life entirely and not talk to her if she tries to make any contact with you.

If you are out in public and she sees you and tries to talk to you walk on by as though she doesn't exist.

If she calls you and you hear her voice on the other end of the phone hang the phone up and its even better if you have one of those phone systems that tells you who is calling before you even pick up so you can let it ring and not answer.

Yeah though any explaining your feelings to a woman of why you no longer communicate with her will just be interpreted as a win by her as she will process this to mean you are emotionally effected by her and hence she is worthwhile and she gets validation.

Always maintain complete silence and no contact with a woman like this, it drives them nuts and gets back at them for being scum like nothing else because they thrive on drama and emotions and emotional highs.

Don't give that to them.

Remember all that I have said for the future should this situation arise again.

And no being friends with the guy that stole her from you or being friends with this girl.

Cut them both out of your life forever.

I understand that you are a Christian and hence forgiveness is important to you well understand that it is possible to forgive someone and still not want anything more to do with them so forgive them both for what they have done to you if you have to for your religion's sake but keep them both out of your life.

They have nothing positive to offer to it except a reminder of their betrayel.

Also remember that in god's mind the truly repentent are only those who stop committing sins or try to very hard.

So if someone asks for god's forgiveness for murdering people but keeps on murdering people they actually aren't sincere are they and likely of going to heaven?

Hell no they aren't.

Its the same for this girl or your friend asking for your forgiveness.

If they keep fvcking eachother and ask for your forgiveness they aren't exactly repentent for what they've done are they?

Hell no.

So in my mind you don't even need to forgive either of them if they stay together but hey you can if you want to.

Each Christian denomination has its own spin on the Bible and when to forgive and when not to forgive.

I just gave you my own from when I used to be a Christian.

This should be in the hall of fame threads!
Great stuff!!!
 

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Lil Magic said:
So, there was my oneitis who i actually wrote quite a few post about who ended up going with a friend of mine. This happened about mid summer and it still really gets to me. I saw her Friday and she still comes to me as if every thing is resolved and forgotten. I dont know if I am the one who gave her this impression, cause i've been avoiding her and kinda cut her off. So anyway, Friday i was prompted to send her a message. Im not gonna post that, but this is her response.

Her: I appreciate your honesty, no love lost on this end, but im glad you told me because I owe you an apology. Im truly sorry I failed to tell you that I was feeling Richard, I should have told form a long time ago, but I didnt. Now look what probs I created so IM SO SORRY AND I HOPE IN TIME THE LORD GIVES YOU THE STRENGTH TO FORGIVE ME AND BUILD THAT STRONG FRIENDSHIP RELATIONSHIP WE ONCE HAD. i DONT WANT TO LOSS YOU AS A FREN. OK
SOOOOO... CHURCH WE TALK OK

Translation: Thank God you emailed me because now I know you are still emotionally attached to me and I don't feel as bad anymore. I'm also going to try to remain as close of friends with you because that will help me alot too and I won't feel like I've done anything wrong. If you completely ignored me and lost all contact with me because of what I did, then I probably would have felt a little upset and weird about what I did, and you would have the upper hand, but since you emailed me first, it proves that I have the hand. Again, thank you, I really appreciate it.

The fact of the matter is, I still wanna remain in contact, but if the result is that all I can ever be is friend and nothing more, i think i should just end this.
You are on to something there with the last two lines, my friend!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Get out and stay out. I dont know if your like me but staying friends with a girl i cared deeply for resulted in me getting emotinal with her and wanting to confess my love to her. It was almost a mental disorder with me i would be like ok im going to give her space and see what she does. And then i would think but she must still have feelings for me like she used too (we dated) and try to get her to love me again whcih resulted in her backing off.

I havent talked to her in a week as of today and I feel so much better. Still think about her at times and want to talk to her, but life is so much sweeter if you just distance yourself from it all and i just keep reminding myself that.

Leave her alone if she wants to be friends with you and that will make you miserable its the best option.
 

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Lil Magic said:
... i've found out that girls tell you stuff like that to make themselves feel less guilty about hurting you. If im just getting token comfort or in a position where I'll always be seen as the guy who "likes me but knows I like this other guy," then screw it all to hell. Im tired of being second place, i've done it long enough so goodbye.What do you guys think?
You're a fast learner.

Also, if she uses the "I don't want to lose you as a friend" line while LJBFing you at the same time, note that you will never be treated even just as a friend. You're at best treated as an orbitor that she gets attention & validation from.

That's why guys here will often tell you to ask her to hook you up with one of her hot friends. It's an easy test to show you her true colours. Most chicks who LJBF you will never lift a finger to help you in that regard.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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