"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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She says she likes "A deep, manly, musk-scented cologne on a man". Ideas?

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I didn't think musk scented cologne was so in vogue anymore.

Anyway, guys, help me out here. What are some good musk-scented colognes?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Don't know about "musk", but Aqua di Gio always seemed to work for me.
 

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Kailex said:
Don't know about "musk", but Aqua di Gio always seemed to work for me.
That's actually what I normally use, and I get a great response.

But this girl is into musk apparently, so I thought maybe someone knew about some good ones. Lately I've been going to dept. store men's cologne sections with zero personel there and zero samples out on the counter.
 

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If she had told you that she likes men that wear pink nose rings would you hand her your balls and go get a damn pink nose ring just to appease her?

I mean seriously what else are you going to do to appease her? Are you going to get a 70's style haircut if she tells you she likes guys that have hair cuts like the guys in 70's cop movies?

Are you going to wear pink underwear if she tells you she likes men that wear pink underwear?

If she tells you she likes goths are you going to start dressing up in all black now?

It's a good thing to change yourself to attract women. Changing things about yourself like improving your confidence, working out, dressing better.

It's another thing altogether to go rush to the store just to get a damn cologne she says she likes or change your personal style for her. I'm not going to change the cologne i wear, the deodorant i wear just for a damn woman. If she wants to buy them for me to try them out then sure she can give them to me as a birthday present. I'll promise to try them out and that's all i can do ;P
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm going to break tradition and actually answer a "tough-guy" kj who spent an inordinate amount of his time scolding Atom Smasher, because to be fair I should have expressed my question more accurately on a forum like this, and the newer ones here could get the impression that it's ok to do some single thing to attract a specific woman, which it most definitely is not.

Answer to all your questions: No.

I should have explained in my question that this girl is already solidly in the bag (I'm seeing her regularly), but she got me thinking about colognes and I was intrigued by the thought of trying a musk cologne since she mentioned it a while ago and I had thought they were out of style. My bad for not presenting it that way.

f2, get a grip on the emotions and clarify before barraging a fellow brother's post with assumptions and amplifications. All you have to do is ask. You're 29. I don't mind in the least being aggressively challenged respectfully. Your point is well-taken. Your delivery, not so much.

As I said, I definitely should have been more clear in my motivation, and therefore I'm responding. My own benificence astounds even me.
 

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Here's a serious answer Atom Smasher- try Royal Coppenhagen Musk. Sold in 1976. Smells great if you don't overdo it.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I'm going to break tradition and actually answer a "tough-guy" kj who spent an inordinate amount of his time scolding Atom Smasher, because to be fair I should have expressed my question more accurately on a forum like this, and the newer ones here could get the impression that it's ok to do some single thing to attract a specific woman, which it most definitely is not.

Answer to all your questions: No.

I should have explained in my question that this girl is already solidly in the bag (I'm seeing her regularly), but she got me thinking about colognes and I was intrigued by the thought of trying a musk cologne since she mentioned it a while ago and I had thought they were out of style. My bad for not presenting it that way.

f2, get a grip on the emotions and clarify before barraging a fellow brother's post with assumptions and amplifications. All you have to do is ask. You're 29. I don't mind in the least being aggressively challenged respectfully. Your point is well-taken. Your delivery, not so much.

As I said, I definitely should have been more clear in my motivation, and therefore I'm responding. My own benificence astounds even me.
How old are you really? Just curious.
 

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Old Spice makes a cologne. I can't think of anything muskier than Old Spice. It's relatively cheap as well.
 
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