"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She says she likes "A deep, manly, musk-scented cologne on a man". Ideas?

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I didn't think musk scented cologne was so in vogue anymore.

Anyway, guys, help me out here. What are some good musk-scented colognes?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Don't know about "musk", but Aqua di Gio always seemed to work for me.
 

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Kailex said:
Don't know about "musk", but Aqua di Gio always seemed to work for me.
That's actually what I normally use, and I get a great response.

But this girl is into musk apparently, so I thought maybe someone knew about some good ones. Lately I've been going to dept. store men's cologne sections with zero personel there and zero samples out on the counter.
 

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If she had told you that she likes men that wear pink nose rings would you hand her your balls and go get a damn pink nose ring just to appease her?

I mean seriously what else are you going to do to appease her? Are you going to get a 70's style haircut if she tells you she likes guys that have hair cuts like the guys in 70's cop movies?

Are you going to wear pink underwear if she tells you she likes men that wear pink underwear?

If she tells you she likes goths are you going to start dressing up in all black now?

It's a good thing to change yourself to attract women. Changing things about yourself like improving your confidence, working out, dressing better.

It's another thing altogether to go rush to the store just to get a damn cologne she says she likes or change your personal style for her. I'm not going to change the cologne i wear, the deodorant i wear just for a damn woman. If she wants to buy them for me to try them out then sure she can give them to me as a birthday present. I'll promise to try them out and that's all i can do ;P
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm going to break tradition and actually answer a "tough-guy" kj who spent an inordinate amount of his time scolding Atom Smasher, because to be fair I should have expressed my question more accurately on a forum like this, and the newer ones here could get the impression that it's ok to do some single thing to attract a specific woman, which it most definitely is not.

Answer to all your questions: No.

I should have explained in my question that this girl is already solidly in the bag (I'm seeing her regularly), but she got me thinking about colognes and I was intrigued by the thought of trying a musk cologne since she mentioned it a while ago and I had thought they were out of style. My bad for not presenting it that way.

f2, get a grip on the emotions and clarify before barraging a fellow brother's post with assumptions and amplifications. All you have to do is ask. You're 29. I don't mind in the least being aggressively challenged respectfully. Your point is well-taken. Your delivery, not so much.

As I said, I definitely should have been more clear in my motivation, and therefore I'm responding. My own benificence astounds even me.
 

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Here's a serious answer Atom Smasher- try Royal Coppenhagen Musk. Sold in 1976. Smells great if you don't overdo it.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I'm going to break tradition and actually answer a "tough-guy" kj who spent an inordinate amount of his time scolding Atom Smasher, because to be fair I should have expressed my question more accurately on a forum like this, and the newer ones here could get the impression that it's ok to do some single thing to attract a specific woman, which it most definitely is not.

Answer to all your questions: No.

I should have explained in my question that this girl is already solidly in the bag (I'm seeing her regularly), but she got me thinking about colognes and I was intrigued by the thought of trying a musk cologne since she mentioned it a while ago and I had thought they were out of style. My bad for not presenting it that way.

f2, get a grip on the emotions and clarify before barraging a fellow brother's post with assumptions and amplifications. All you have to do is ask. You're 29. I don't mind in the least being aggressively challenged respectfully. Your point is well-taken. Your delivery, not so much.

As I said, I definitely should have been more clear in my motivation, and therefore I'm responding. My own benificence astounds even me.
How old are you really? Just curious.
 

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Old Spice makes a cologne. I can't think of anything muskier than Old Spice. It's relatively cheap as well.
 
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