"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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she pays, a way for her to justify in future its not a date?

drift king

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this girl im seeing every other date tries to pay and says 'it's my turn..' i don't like this.. it's like shes trying to friendzone me and we take it in turns to pay.

i can't get the money out of my pocket quick enough before she's paid, is she using this as a future reason that it isn't a date?

we haven't kiss closed yet but she's licked my lips, as soon as i try to kiss she pulls away. she's a tease. we've been out 6 times in total. 2 intially 2 months ago, now 4 in that past 2 weeks. if i haven't seen her for 2 months, does the cycle of dating start again i.e. in my case the 3rd date is a new 1st date?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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jophil28

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You have been out 6 times and she is pulling away when you try to kiss her ?
Do you really need to hear from us what you already know ?
There is a tiny teeny weeny chance that you can sexualize this "relationship", but I just don't know how.
SIX TIMES out and no kissy..sheesh.
 

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Unfortunately I agree with Jophil28, 6 dates and no kiss = not interested
 

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In these modern times, most of the guys here will tell you that this proves she likes you and isn't after you just for money.

Now if it's your birthday, anniversary or a promotion at work, then I'll take you out and pay for everything.

But I'm old school. Paying for the dinner, taking turns or going dutch is what I do with my girlfriends when we go shopping. If I'm starting to date a guy and I pay for our dinners...he has ZERO chance for anything romantic. He's just become my girlfriend!
 

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WaterTiger said:
In these modern times, most of the guys here will tell you that this proves she likes you and isn't after you just for money.

Now if it's your birthday, anniversary or a promotion at work, then I'll take you out and pay for everything.

But I'm old school. Paying for the dinner, taking turns or going dutch is what I do with my girlfriends when we go shopping. If I'm starting to date a guy and I pay for our dinners...he has ZERO chance for anything romantic. He's just become my girlfriend!
Valid point.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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mrRuckus

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I fvck women who are willing to pay. I'm not friend zoned when I accept.

You are weird to me if you have issues having a woman pay for you. I sometimes accept; I sometimes say no. I like to let her contribute. It depends on things like if she has a good income, no income, or what depending on how often I let them. I'm no one's cash cow.

I never ever do "I pay for everything." I resent it later.

I don't think there's much of any greater meaning behind it you can apply to anyone.

I make a lot of money for someone my age. It has little to do with my willingness to pay for stuff.

Aren't you supposed to be the prize? Let her foot the bill sometimes and earn that prize. Who cares about the random woman who declares herself old school and that guy "won't get anything romantic?" I've personally never run into a woman who does anything like that, and when I do I won't give a damn.

This is like that silly thread a few weeks ago where a guy was saying you MUST kiss a girl on a first date or she won't go out with you again. I've never seen that happen!
 

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WaterTiger said:
If I'm starting to date a guy and I pay for our dinners...he has ZERO chance for anything romantic. He's just become my girlfriend!
Everyone who reads this quote needs to take it with a grain of salt.
 

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6 dates without a kiss? Why are you even spending time on this woman? Kiss on the first date, if she pulls away then I'm not interested. I dont go on dates to small-talk with broads all night.
 

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well she licks your lips, i guess shes somewhat interested lmao...i guess it just depends on the day....and if shes willing to pay why not milk the situation a little. You've got nothing to lose except for like one night a week (please dont give me bull**** about how every night is valuable because most people on here are deff not going out with a diff girl evvery night). Since you're not paying, might as well see where this goes why the hell not?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Enjoy the free food man
 

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The Grey Fox said:
6 dates without a kiss? Why are you even spending time on this woman? Kiss on the first date, if she pulls away then I'm not interested. I dont go on dates to small-talk with broads all night.
This. I really don't get why this woman goes on 6 dates. Can anyone explain me this?
 

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Crap or get off the pot. Escalate, hard core. Best way to test to see where things are going, when you're out playfully slap her ass. If it's a positive reaction, pin her against a wall and makeout with her. If not, then you're a girlfriend and aren't supposed to be doing that.
 

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...we've been out 6 times in total. 2 intially 2 months ago, now 4 in that past 2 weeks. if i haven't seen her for 2 months, does the cycle of dating start again i.e. in my case the 3rd date is a new 1st date?
There's no such thing as a "new 1st date" First impressions and all that are important.

6 dates and still no kiss closing? I'd have 'nexted' her.

As for paying for the date; if she's willing to pay, never put up an argument.
 

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Hell yeah let her pay. She'll think you're "secure of your own masculinity", and you eat for free. If you don't take the gimmies, don't whine about the ones that got away.

And if WaterTiger paid for my dinner, she'd soon be a WetCougar.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ideally this whole situation shouldn't be a big deal to you because you have a lot of other things going on in your life and she's not the only girl you're seeing. Right? Right.
 
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