VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Yeah, if she were asleep at 11pm she would of texted before work or called during the day if she had an interest. These women just don't know what the hell they want. Good moves by the way, you played it right.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I think they know what they want it's just where you sit amongst the b1tches want list and the type of game you show.VladPatton said:Yeah, if she were asleep at 11pm she would of texted before work or called during the day if she had an interest. These women just don't know what the hell they want. Good moves by the way, you played it right.
At least you know this girl is full of crap!For_F said:She immediately replied saying I've wanted to contact you for a while now but bit the bullet the other day and just did it I guess.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Absolutely. It is disrespectful, almost laughably so. Too typical. Oh well. Congrats for deleting the number.Die Hard said:But she didn't make a worthwhile attempt and THAT is why you shouldn't have responded!
If she really was interested, she would send you something a little meaningful at the least, like: "Hey, I just found this pic and was wondering how you were doing!" At least that would've been a SENTENCE, for fvck sake!
Seriously, just a picture without any accompanying words at all? Or just your name with a question mark? Since when do normal people communicate through sign language and one-word sentences???
For_F said:New text at 1 am last night: 'You didn't call me'.
I did call her two nights ago but my phone has this weird tendency to not send my number therefore coming up as a private number. Im pretty sure it would have been on when I called her though. The best she could claim is she doesnt pick up private numbers.
What to do from here? Could she really fake not receiving my call? I might send a message saying I called you on Monday night and you didn't pick up.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
For_F said:Just had an exchange of messages:
Me: I called you that night but went to voicemail. If I call you around 1 today will you be free to talk?
Her: Nah I'll be at work. I didn't see you call me maybe I was asleep.
Me: I assumed you would have gotten a missed call on your phone. What time do you finish work?
Her: I just checked my phone and there was a missed call from you that night. Sometimes I check my phone in the middle of the night when Im half asleep and don't remember in the morning.
Me: I see you're just as silly as ever
Two things I want to note - One, she never even said sorry and came on rude at the beginning. I sent that last message to control the mood of our texts. I know sh1t is pretty tense atm because she's hoping for the guy she met on holidays to brighten her ego while I'm affirming that she needs to work and put out for me to make her happy. I sent the last message to make her feel as if there is light at the end of the tunnel without actually being that dude.
She hasnt replied to what time she finishes work she could have arrived there as I sent that so we'll see. I deleted her number again to prevent any unnecessary texting. Next point of contact will be a call then a meet up.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Unnecessary, maybe even detrimental. Sounds like you are angry in a passive aggressive way, too afraid to come out with it.For_F said:Just had an exchange of messages:
Me: I called you that night but went to voicemail.
"Will you be free"-kind of weak, man. How about not even texting her you're going to call? How about just calling at 1? Better still, how about just ignoring her after her previous display of disrespect and her lame non-apology. By responding you accept this behavior.For_F said:If I call you around 1 today will you be free to talk?
This is just complete and total bullsh!t. Her "Nah I'll be at work" is also disrespect without expressing interest in talking at a different time.For_F said:Her: Nah I'll be at work. I didn't see you call me maybe I was asleep.
Dude, more passive-aggressive stuff. She's not your girlfriend, so why are you offended? Why not just laugh it off? If you are actually angry, then blast her. Don't go halfway. Better yet, don't even address it.For_F said:Me: I assumed you would have gotten a missed call on your phone.
Again, this is like a repeat of your first text. You passive-aggressively whine about her misbehavior, and then in the very same text basically say, "So when do you want to talk to me? Please please please please." Do you see how that shows her that her behavior was acceptable and shows her you have no standards for communication? Or worse yet, do you see how it shows her you have standards but you will bend all of your rules specially for her because....why. Because she's hot and nothing else matters?For_F said:What time do you finish work?
My BS alarm just went off again. This is TOTAL BULLSH!T. A good response would be: "That's total bullsh!t." Then end communication. Pretty rude though- how about "Whatever, chick." No, still rude.For_F said:Her: I just checked my phone and there was a missed call from you that night. Sometimes I check my phone in the middle of the night when Im half asleep and don't remember in the morning.
No, dude. No. No. She was not "silly." She was COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. The smiley face is NOT GOOD-like you're afraid you upset her and want to make sure she still likes you. Every single text you have sent says, "I accept this behavior I normally find unacceptable because you are hot."For_F said:Me: I see you're just as silly as ever![]()
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.