"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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She "just" wants to give me head

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ok, i hooked up with this chick a while ago - i'm talking 3-4 years ago. she was one of my ex's girlfriends (i still chuckle about that).

anyway, she just left my pad, first time i've seen her since. she came in wearing something skanky which i like, and talked for about 5-10 minutes then gave me head. she left ten minutes after i finished. she swallowed and everything.

i'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, but i am a wee-bit concerned over her sincerity. do some girls really "just" want to do these sort of sexual "favors?" part of me believes not. maybe it highlights some of my general insecurities or maybe it's a real gut-level-instinct that i should pay attention to.

is she thinking maybe by being so blunt and forward i'll want "more" from her? by "more" i think some of you guys will know what i mean; all that contrived romantic stuff that is no longer very appealing to some of us who've "arrived."

any thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You should refuse that stuff with the indication that you are more high value than that.

In that if she wants to suck you off she had better be giving you her pvssy too.

And to answer your question yeah she could be trying to bring you into her frame by giving you these sexual treats with the promise of the full thing finally being given to you after you be a good boy and give her a relationship.

Fvck that sh!t.

Like Rollo says its sex first then relationship as any sex you have to wait for probably isn't worth the wait.
 

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While I respect KX, I have to say why worry about what she's trying to do or whatever? If you like it and she's willing then so be it. I'd sacrifice 20 minutes of my busy schedule for a free wax and buff.
 

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I actually don't really even want her *****. She's not hot enough for me where I'd actually bother thrusting, heh.

So do I just keep frame, understand that it's possible she may be dangling this in hopes of me "giving" in - and move on with my life?

After more thought I'm pretty sure, at this point, that I'm not being paranoid.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You should refuse that stuff with the indication that you are more high value than that.

In that if she wants to suck you off she had better be giving you her pvssy too.

And to answer your question yeah she could be trying to bring you into her frame by giving you these sexual treats with the promise of the full thing finally being given to you after you be a good boy and give her a relationship.

Fvck that sh!t.

Like Rollo says its sex first then relationship as any sex you have to wait for probably isn't worth the wait.

Youre acting like theres a problem with getting some head. If you think about it, a girl sucking a cawk give you higher value than having sex with her. There are plenty of dudes who may have sex with some chicks but have never gotten head. I do agree with the latter of what you said though.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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girls like to please. their designed to. it makes em feel good.

no girl likes the taste of ***, some may have adjusted to it, but they do it to please.
 

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Apparently it's an acquired taste, I knew a freak for a while that didn't want me to *** in her butt because that would "waste it" - she wanted me to drop the load in her mouth instead. *shrug*
 

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All of you missed the point of my post.

The point of it was if you follow my advice you get more power over and respect out of the chick as she would be shocked that any man would turn down head.

Following my advice gets this guy fvcked and sucked much longer than just going with the flow and letting the current arrangement run its course as he would be the one in control and can end it when he wants if ever.

Oh well though if you want the chick to direct the course of this arrangement and end it on her time table rather than yours be my guest.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Oh well though if you want the chick to direct the course of this arrangement and end it on her time table rather than yours be my guest.
The difference being that I'm not desperate. Really, I had more of a general question regarding this "type" of behavior than I did about "help" with this particular situation. If this girl never gave me head again I would not care.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I ran into a couple of girls like that. I never really figured out why they only gave oral. Maybe there's some issues "down there" or who knows what. I hate head its so boring - I much prefer sex.
 

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This place will cause you to over analyze everything. She gave you a blow job and bounced, deal with it and move on the the next one.
 
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