"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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She "just" wants to give me head

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ok, i hooked up with this chick a while ago - i'm talking 3-4 years ago. she was one of my ex's girlfriends (i still chuckle about that).

anyway, she just left my pad, first time i've seen her since. she came in wearing something skanky which i like, and talked for about 5-10 minutes then gave me head. she left ten minutes after i finished. she swallowed and everything.

i'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, but i am a wee-bit concerned over her sincerity. do some girls really "just" want to do these sort of sexual "favors?" part of me believes not. maybe it highlights some of my general insecurities or maybe it's a real gut-level-instinct that i should pay attention to.

is she thinking maybe by being so blunt and forward i'll want "more" from her? by "more" i think some of you guys will know what i mean; all that contrived romantic stuff that is no longer very appealing to some of us who've "arrived."

any thoughts?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You should refuse that stuff with the indication that you are more high value than that.

In that if she wants to suck you off she had better be giving you her pvssy too.

And to answer your question yeah she could be trying to bring you into her frame by giving you these sexual treats with the promise of the full thing finally being given to you after you be a good boy and give her a relationship.

Fvck that sh!t.

Like Rollo says its sex first then relationship as any sex you have to wait for probably isn't worth the wait.
 

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While I respect KX, I have to say why worry about what she's trying to do or whatever? If you like it and she's willing then so be it. I'd sacrifice 20 minutes of my busy schedule for a free wax and buff.
 

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I actually don't really even want her *****. She's not hot enough for me where I'd actually bother thrusting, heh.

So do I just keep frame, understand that it's possible she may be dangling this in hopes of me "giving" in - and move on with my life?

After more thought I'm pretty sure, at this point, that I'm not being paranoid.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You should refuse that stuff with the indication that you are more high value than that.

In that if she wants to suck you off she had better be giving you her pvssy too.

And to answer your question yeah she could be trying to bring you into her frame by giving you these sexual treats with the promise of the full thing finally being given to you after you be a good boy and give her a relationship.

Fvck that sh!t.

Like Rollo says its sex first then relationship as any sex you have to wait for probably isn't worth the wait.

Youre acting like theres a problem with getting some head. If you think about it, a girl sucking a cawk give you higher value than having sex with her. There are plenty of dudes who may have sex with some chicks but have never gotten head. I do agree with the latter of what you said though.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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girls like to please. their designed to. it makes em feel good.

no girl likes the taste of ***, some may have adjusted to it, but they do it to please.
 

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Apparently it's an acquired taste, I knew a freak for a while that didn't want me to *** in her butt because that would "waste it" - she wanted me to drop the load in her mouth instead. *shrug*
 

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All of you missed the point of my post.

The point of it was if you follow my advice you get more power over and respect out of the chick as she would be shocked that any man would turn down head.

Following my advice gets this guy fvcked and sucked much longer than just going with the flow and letting the current arrangement run its course as he would be the one in control and can end it when he wants if ever.

Oh well though if you want the chick to direct the course of this arrangement and end it on her time table rather than yours be my guest.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Oh well though if you want the chick to direct the course of this arrangement and end it on her time table rather than yours be my guest.
The difference being that I'm not desperate. Really, I had more of a general question regarding this "type" of behavior than I did about "help" with this particular situation. If this girl never gave me head again I would not care.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I ran into a couple of girls like that. I never really figured out why they only gave oral. Maybe there's some issues "down there" or who knows what. I hate head its so boring - I much prefer sex.
 

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This place will cause you to over analyze everything. She gave you a blow job and bounced, deal with it and move on the the next one.
 
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