"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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I know this girl isn't interested in me but her actions aren't making much sense.

We used to be in a dance class together last year. She knows that I'm into her and she told me that she's too busy to date. That conversation was months ago and since then we've regularly talked and went out dancing a few times though there were always other people from the class with us.

During finals week (around December 15) I sent her a message on Facebook )suggesting that we get a drink or go out dancing once finals were over. She replied saying that she was going back home out of town right after of finals and wouldn't be able to go out. I sent her a message saying that she should come out with me right before she goes home. She didn't reply to that message.

After I returned from my own vacation I had made plans to go out dancing with a lady friend of mine and thought that I may was well invite this girl too. A few days go by and I don't hear from her so I delete her from my phone.

Then five days after I sent the message on Facebook she actually replies, "Hey sorry I just saw this. I'm not back in town yet."

Why did she reply?!

We then exchange a few messages, I suggest going out dancing when she gets back and she doesn't address that topic and mentions something else.

For some reason she came back from the fade when there really wasn't a reason for her to.

Now I'm wondering if there is any possible way I can get her to do something with me once she gets back in town.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think a better question is why are you still invested in this girl when, by your own words, she isn't interested? Move on, and let this girl be. Who cares why she responded.
 

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Dadude548 said:
I know this girl isn't interested in me but her actions aren't making much sense.

We used to be in a dance class together last year. She knows that I'm into her and she told me that she's too busy to date. That conversation was months ago and since then we've regularly talked and went out dancing a few times though there were always other people from the class with us.

During finals week (around December 15) I sent her a message on Facebook )suggesting that we get a drink or go out dancing once finals were over. She replied saying that she was going back home out of town right after of finals and wouldn't be able to go out. I sent her a message saying that she should come out with me right before she goes home. She didn't reply to that message.

After I returned from my own vacation I had made plans to go out dancing with a lady friend of mine and thought that I may was well invite this girl too. A few days go by and I don't hear from her so I delete her from my phone.

Then five days after I sent the message on Facebook she actually replies, "Hey sorry I just saw this. I'm not back in town yet."

Why did she reply?!

We then exchange a few messages, I suggest going out dancing when she gets back and she doesn't address that topic and mentions something else.

For some reason she came back from the fade when there really wasn't a reason for her to.

Now I'm wondering if there is any possible way I can get her to do something with me once she gets back in town.
She only replied for attention and or out of "niceness".

Forget this chick. She isn't interested. Perhaps only interested in attention at times from you for a feel good ego boost.

If she was into you she'd be texting you asking you to go out with her alone. She'd be saying YES and showing up to meet you alone. Not simply responding and or making excuses if you ask her out on a date.

Again. Forget this chick. You already know she isn't interested yet you're wasting your time for any sign or glimmer of hope she'll change her mind. Forget it. Move on.
 

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Dreesy said:
Oh, this one's easy. She's an attention *****.
Ha! Is it really that simple?

Eph said:
I think a better question is why are you still invested in this girl when, by your own words, she isn't interested? Move on, and let this girl be. Who cares why she responded.
Honestly I'm bored and done with college and don't really know how to go after women from now on. Also she's a girl that I liked who I'm still in touch with.

Right now I'm just trying to figure out why she didn't just stay silent like the majority of women who aren't interested.
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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For the hell of it I replied to her message she sent me a couple of days ago and she replied right away.

She's definitely not replying to me out of niceness.

I also think she's back home because she mentioned doing something to her cat today.

Assuming that she's at least neutral towards me, is there anything I could say that would give her a push to meeting up?
 

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Dadude548 said:
Right now I'm just trying to figure out why she didn't just stay silent like the majority of women who aren't interested.
Probably because the majority of women won't just "stay silent" when they aren't interested. They still respond, they still act the same way they always have. Nothing really changes. Most of them just don't have the guts to come right out and say, "I'm not interested in you". Instead they dance around the issue and hope you eventually get the hint. It's time for you to take this woman's hint. You're ignoring the fact that she's just not into you because, again, by your own words, you don't know how to get women since you're not in college any more.

First, you need to let her go. Next her, and go ghost. Then, focus on you. Go work on your hobbies and if you run into someone with the same hobby then you've got something to go talk about. Then you've got clubs and bars. Cold approach girls you like. There's dating websites and apps too. You've got endless options for finding new women.
 

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She has declined you several times now. Get a clue, Einstein...
 

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Dadude548 said:
We used to be in a dance class together last year. She knows that I'm into her and she told me that she's too busy to date. That conversation was months ago and since then we've regularly talked and went out dancing a few times though there were always other people from the class with us.

During finals week (around December 15) I sent her a message on Facebook )suggesting that we get a drink or go out dancing once finals were over. She replied saying that she was going back home out of town right after of finals and wouldn't be able to go out. I sent her a message saying that she should come out with me right before she goes home.

She didn't reply to that message.
Bro, she said she can't go out. You totally ignore what she said and say "go out with me." Of course she isn't going to reply, you didn't listen to her previous statement.

After I returned from my own vacation I had made plans to go out dancing with a lady friend of mine and thought that I may was well invite this girl too. A few days go by and I don't hear from her so I delete her from my phone.

Then five days after I sent the message on Facebook she actually replies, "Hey sorry I just saw this. I'm not back in town yet."

Why did she reply?!
Because you said "lady friend", she woke up a little. But I don't know why you are inviting a lady friend to go out with a girl you want to sleep with.

We then exchange a few messages, I suggest going out dancing when she gets back and she doesn't address that topic and mentions something else.

For some reason she came back from the fade when there really wasn't a reason for her to.

Now I'm wondering if there is any possible way I can get her to do something with me once she gets back in town.
Bro, stop exchanging messages with a girl. The more you text/talk/email/communicate with a girl without sleeping with her, the more power she has.

Instead of 10 messages back and forth, you could have just said "let me know when you get back, love to take you dancing ."

And you leave it, don't keep going in thinking you will raise interest level. Interest level is raised by having good sex with her. :up:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Good advice. Low interest. Stop reaching out to her. Women will never come out and tell you that you have no chance and push you away. She wants you to take the hint and move on.
 

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Open and shut for Judge nismo.

She has no interest and you care too much. It's a lost cause. Your princess is in another castle.

All this girl is is an e-attention wh0re and she only wants you as an e-orbiter. Move the f**k on unless you like this kind of torture.

Case closed. Exit the courtroom.
 

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Women like orbiters and you are it. Next. Not really sure why you contacted her knowing her lack of interest.
 

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So for the hell of it I've maintained contact with her since then and now it looks like we're going to out dancing next week just the two of us.

Since I live between her city and the place we are going to, I'm thinking about suggesting that she drop by my place for a snack or whatever, and then we'll take my car to the place which is about 30 min from where I live.

We'll dance, have fun. Once we're done we'll go back to my place so she can get her car. I'll invite her in for a drink, and then who knows....

If I can pull this off I should probably buy a few lottery tickets.
 

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Dadude548 said:
So for the hell of it I've maintained contact with her since then and now it looks like we're going to out dancing next week just the two of us.

Since I live between her city and the place we are going to, I'm thinking about suggesting that she drop by my place for a snack or whatever, and then we'll take my car to the place which is about 30 min from where I live.

We'll dance, have fun. Once we're done we'll go back to my place so she can get her car. I'll invite her in for a drink, and then who knows....

If I can pull this off I should probably buy a few lottery tickets.
Given the details you've provided, all of which strongly suggest low interest, keep your eyes peeled for LMR and/or a last minute insistence on her end to take her car - or worse, go with a friend. But yeah, if you pull it off, good for you. Good luck.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yes, I'm assuming low interest. But things can still happen.

Right now it's looking like things can go either way. Frankly I'm just happy that I can get her out.
 

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Dadude548 said:
I know this girl isn't interested in me but her actions aren't making much sense.

We used to be in a dance class together last year. She knows that I'm into her and she told me that she's too busy to date. That conversation was months ago and since then we've regularly talked and went out dancing a few times though there were always other people from the class with us.

During finals week (around December 15) I sent her a message on Facebook )suggesting that we get a drink or go out dancing once finals were over. She replied saying that she was going back home out of town right after of finals and wouldn't be able to go out. I sent her a message saying that she should come out with me right before she goes home. She didn't reply to that message.

After I returned from my own vacation I had made plans to go out dancing with a lady friend of mine and thought that I may was well invite this girl too. A few days go by and I don't hear from her so I delete her from my phone.

Then five days after I sent the message on Facebook she actually replies, "Hey sorry I just saw this. I'm not back in town yet."

Why did she reply?!

We then exchange a few messages, I suggest going out dancing when she gets back and she doesn't address that topic and mentions something else.

For some reason she came back from the fade when there really wasn't a reason for her to.

Now I'm wondering if there is any possible way I can get her to do something with me once she gets back in town.

For the hell of it I replied to her message she sent me a couple of days ago and she replied right away.

She's definitely not replying to me out of niceness.

I also think she's back home because she mentioned doing something to her cat today.

Assuming that she's at least neutral towards me, is there anything I could say that would give her a push to meeting up?

Yes, I'm assuming low interest. But things can still happen.

Right now it's looking like things can go either way. Frankly I'm just happy that I can get her out.
Your mistakes and red flags in bold.

Wow. This is just sad. Guys, when you are so desperate for any interaction that you get your hopes up over something as banal as a Facebook rejection, and you STILL don't give up, you know you need to hit the gym.

When a girl likes you enough she will have sex within a few minutes.

This girl is going to seriously get a restraining order if this guy asks her to go dancing again.
 

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Dadude548 said:
So for the hell of it I've maintained contact with her since then and now it looks like we're going to out dancing next week just the two of us.

Since I live between her city and the place we are going to, I'm thinking about suggesting that she drop by my place for a snack or whatever, and then we'll take my car to the place which is about 30 min from where I live.

We'll dance, have fun. Once we're done we'll go back to my place so she can get her car. I'll invite her in for a drink, and then who knows....

If I can pull this off I should probably buy a few lottery tickets.
hahahahhahaa...

Keep fantasizing...

She rejected you in a subtle way several times already, but hey, what do I know right?
 

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Dadude548 said:
For the hell of it I replied to her message she sent me a couple of days ago and she replied right away.

She's definitely not replying to me out of niceness.

I also think she's back home because she mentioned doing something to her cat today.

Assuming that she's at least neutral towards me, is there anything I could say that would give her a push to meeting up?
Sounds like your now an orbiter purely there to feed her ego. Until she meets an alpha who puts this b1tch in her place.

Forget this girl man, concentrate on the other girl your going dancing with.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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