"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She Has A Boyfriend...???!

Alemayehu

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Hi, this is my first time posting, some of my friends Chase, Spike, and Ray got me on to this. I have read the "newbie" guide and I already to a lot of the stuff that the main Don Juan guy says. However, I still have this question about this girl..

I met "this one girl" at a UCR College Orientation. I talked to her as a joke, initially, because one of the guys that I had met thought she was hot. When I started talking to her (because I thought I had nothing to lose), I was actually genuinely interested in her, and not just because of looks! She was into the same stuff I was (Star Wars when I was younger, Biology Major, Gym, Beach, Lord of the Rings Collectibles, etc). So, after that time I met her at breakfast, I told her that I looked forward to seeing her later.

So, on and on it went, and I ate all the meals (breakfast, lunch, and dinner) with her for the remaining 3 days. I got a lot of teasing from my roommates who thought I just wanted a piece of @$$, but I didn't really. I wanted to know more about her. I think I screwed up though because at the dance, she didn't want to dance with me because she mentioned she had a boyfriend. HOWEVER, this issue was not brought to my attention when I was up in her room watching Something about Mary with her and another girl.

Anyways, this girl seems special, but I do not want to make any early judgement calls. Please hook me up with some advice, I am not a retard, so don't worry, she is near my age, not Adriana Lima, and is going to be a college freshman like me this coming Winter. FYI I am Ethiopian (AKA BLACK) and she is White, I'm working out so my weight won't be a factor, just curious if that will affect it, message me or whatever, cuz seriously, lol I think about her every damn day (CRUSHES ARE ANNOYING some times. Thanks ;)
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm Joe Dirt

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Well I doubt race should be an issue, though it might. Not everyone feels comfortable dating outside their race, but studies (which looked at interracial marriages) have shown that white women are more likely to be with someone outside their race than black women.

If she has a bf and she is happy with her relationship you aren't going to get anywhere far.

Having things in common doesn't always mean you're right for eachother. A lot of people liked Star Wars when they were kids, and a lot of the interests mentioned apply to a lot of people. It goes hand in hand with the theory of barnum statements, that is statements that apply to a large group of people BUT people believe are unique (to some extent) to them.

Finally, you shouldn't use real names and places on these forums. First of all respect the privacy of people you're discussing, and 2nd if this page ever gets indexed by google and she out of randomness searches for Jenna Parker, her name, and UCR which is her school, and adds the word honors, and then THIS page comes up, you'll have a situation on your hands.
 

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Aren't you too old to have a crush?
 

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First off, thanks for the warning, I was just trying to be honest here, I try not to lie. And LOL I guess I am too old for a crush, I meant I like her. Sorry for the mixup, my linguistic skills aren't up to par it seems :)

Well, I was trying to say she never brought up her boyfriend that much when we were talking, and we like talked late into the night (1 am) and she didn't talk late with any other person there. I was just curious about what could possibly be there. I mean, she only mentioned him when I asked her to dance and when I asked "who is that guy in the picture with you" while I was checking out some stuff in her room. Anyways, more advice less hating lol
 

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If she wouldn't even dance with you cause she has a bf I doubt she would do anything else either. This one is taken so move on. Even if she was interested you'd pretty much have to wait out her relationship since she doesn't look like she is going to cheat, and thats a strategy that may make you contract oneitis.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Alemayehu

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I see your wisdom. Thanks for the advice Joe Dirt I guess this one is a "NEXT" , quoted from the Don Juan Bible LOL
 

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You made your move and got shot down at the dance so there's no point in pursuing her and risk humiliating yourself further.
 
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